Nielo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 For the past couple of months I've been using the Wishing Well more actively again. (I can go months/years forgetting it even exists.) I'm currently making 7-14 wishes a day, without any luck. But, some people, apparently, have all the luck: Like this person: Or this one: And this one (from today): Anyway, while I don't begrudge these people their prizes, it is - in addition to making me feel a little jealous - making me wonder how the Well's winners are elected, because it feels like that system could do with a little improvement. XD Does anyone have any insights into this? Has this been discussed before and have I just missed it? queen_hatshepset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Every time someone wins twice, is it always 2 of the same item? Implying a coding hiccup maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Could be, but if they're anything like me, they might just be wishing for the same item every time. (To maximise the chances of even winning it once.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Yeah, I realise that could also be what's going on. You've reminded me about the well now so I'll wish for something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielo Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 I hope you'll have better luck than I've been having! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I'll have better luck than I've had in the past, as I've NEVER been able to remember to use it. Nielo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuiina Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I've never noticed that people won double things on the same day. It sounds suspicious to say the least I've been wishing for items since I returned from hiatus and I've won 4-5 times. I didn't even ask for them on a daily basis so I guess I was lucky. Now I ask them every single day and I don't receive anything for a while. Nielo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbw Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I've never won anything but play intermittently. I'll go through a phase of wishing (2 sessions per day, 6 or 7 wishes each time), and then after nothing ever happens, I'll get discouraged and quit for a while, until going back to try again. Nielo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queen_hatshepset Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I have not won anything from the wishing well and I have played intermittently as well. How much does one put down for their wishes? Perhaps I am a bit cheap? 1000NP is what I always put down. It would be nice to see the average wishing well donation being dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeló Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 My own theory is the Wishing Well works like the Shop Wizard , collecting data about users / wishers using their first letter .. for example if your username starts with "n" , the well would grant a few "n" users their wishes in a row .. thus the possibility of winning twice if not many users that start with "n" wished for that day ... or maybe it's a group of initials , like for example this last round , users with "r" "s" t" won ... Then again I might be just completely wrong and it's totally random ... P.S not to annoy you or anything , but I HAVE won twice in the same round in the past queen_hatshepset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskitty Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Besides Angelo's theory, there really isn't much confirmed. I think it's just luck for the most part. I place about 7 wishes per day, 21 NP each (as that's the minimum you can wish in order to win) and I've had about 20 wishes granted since, oh, 2015 or so? I haven't been keeping track. I generally wish for what's most valuable at the time until its price drops and I wish for a new item instead. I can only really place 7 per day because my timezone usually makes it so I can only get into one 12-hour period. queen_hatshepset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 12 hours ago, queen_hatshepset said: How much does one put down for their wishes? Perhaps I am a bit cheap? 1000NP is what I always put down. It would be nice to see the average wishing well donation being dropped. I think you're maybe being needlessly generous? I'm assuming pretty much everyone donates the 21NP minimum. Just going by the 21NP contributions from the Wishing Well that show up on the Money tree all the time. I give 23NP, just because I like the number. queen_hatshepset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queen_hatshepset Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 hours ago, jellysundae said: I think you're maybe being needlessly generous? I'm assuming pretty much everyone donates the 21NP minimum. Just going by the 21NP contributions from the Wishing Well that show up on the Money tree all the time. I give 23NP, just because I like the number. I guess being generous was my hope in winning lol. I'll definitely lowering my contribution significantly now! jellysundae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Meanwhile I wonder if wishing for something that isn't hugely expensive increases your chances... which is daft in the extreme as the list of winners shows this clearly isn't the case. I see Garet won today, does that bode well for his FC bets maybe?? Wow, one of the other winners from today - blankstorefront - account's only a week old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielo Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 6:02 AM, Angeló said: My own theory is the Wishing Well works like the Shop Wizard , collecting data about users / wishers using their first letter .. for example if your username starts with "n" , the well would grant a few "n" users their wishes in a row .. thus the possibility of winning twice if not many users that start with "n" wished for that day ... or maybe it's a group of initials , like for example this last round , users with "r" "s" t" won ... Then again I might be just completely wrong and it's totally random ... There do seem to be some similarties to the Shop Wizard, although the Wishing Well will usually only have 2 or 3 winners with the same first letter, so I think the mechanism is at least slightly different. On 1/28/2020 at 12:10 PM, Duskitty said: Besides Angelo's theory, there really isn't much confirmed. I think it's just luck for the most part. I definitely agree that it's mostly luck, as I do think it's mostly random, but if I were to program (or monitor) a 'random' contest, I'd make sure that if someone already won that round (or even that day), they couldn't win again, to at least even out the chances for other players somewhat (especially with the amount of people wishing for stuff each day). On 1/28/2020 at 7:02 PM, queen_hatshepset said: I guess being generous was my hope in winning lol. I'll definitely lowering my contribution significantly now! Yeah, I agree with @jellysundae, the amount of NP doesn't really seem to matter (as long as it's at least 21). On 1/28/2020 at 8:21 PM, jellysundae said: Meanwhile I wonder if wishing for something that isn't hugely expensive increases your chances... which is daft in the extreme as the list of winners shows this clearly isn't the case. The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think that the only thing that might play a part in whether or not you win, is the first letter of your username. But I'm not even certain about that. I think the only things they definitely check are if your wish meets the minimum amount of NP donated, and if the item you're wishing for has a rarity lower than the max rarity that can be rewarded. Everything else appears to be random. (Which is good, except for the double winners. ) Oh well. Off to make more wishes! XD *Edit: It's almost as if TNT read this thread, because now it's happened to me... XD And yes, I wished for the same item all 7 wishes, and received it twice. Angeló 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queen_hatshepset Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Oh my goodness! All this time... I have been putting thousands of np down for the wishing well! I took your advice and only put 25 np and I won a dirty fish tank! I am star struck! My very first wishing well wish has been granted. That is so cool! Angeló and jellysundae 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 @queen_hatshepset How awesome, well done! While I remembered to wish for a whole 2 days maybe. *goes to do it again now* Angeló and queen_hatshepset 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queen_hatshepset Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 @jellysundae good luck! I will keep my fingers crossed for you! My husband was excited with me too until he found out it was just for Neopets. He thought I was a complete nut case when I was bouncing in my chair with excitement. jellysundae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, queen_hatshepset said: @jellysundae good luck! I will keep my fingers crossed for you! My husband was excited with me too until he found out it was just for Neopets. He thought I was a complete nut case when I was bouncing in my chair with excitement. You've just reminded me again so I'll go wish right now xD I think it's gonna be a long old slog before my brain learns to remember to do this, so something for me to look forward to! Haha about your hubby, he just doesn't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielo Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 6:16 PM, queen_hatshepset said: Oh my goodness! All this time... I have been putting thousands of np down for the wishing well! I took your advice and only put 25 np and I won a dirty fish tank! I am star struck! My very first wishing well wish has been granted. That is so cool! Awesome, congrats! (And @jellysundae, this thread has now been lucky for both @queen_hatshepset and me, so who knows, you might suddenly have your wish (or two of them XD) granted as well. ) jellysundae and queen_hatshepset 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeló Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Three in a row for this already rich & famous player First time I see this honestly Nielo and jellysundae 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 And there's my go make some wishes reminder! So far, I am seriously rubbish at managing to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuiina Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Angeló said: Three in a row for this already rich & famous player First time I see this honestly Winning twice a day is already some big coincidence. Winning 3 times is... Something is odd about that. Seriously odd. Nielo and jellysundae 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellysundae Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I've remembered to wish, I'm kind of, sort of, getting better at it. I go through the names of the winners each time because this thread got me intrigued, lol. I see Garet's won, AGAIN. His name crops up quite a lot, as does Purplebin from JN. Now we know giving more money doesn't help, but is the Well seriously giving preferential treatment to Neo "VIPs"?? Is it sucking up to the cool kids?? Angeló and Nielo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielo Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 @jellysundae Interesting! It does seem like an awful big coincidence, considering how hard winning seems to be with so many people entering, and the "random" algorithm. Which might be slightly less random, if certain people are winning more than others... I think the only thing to do is for one of us to become one of the "VIPs", and see if we start winning more often. Angeló 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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