Levelling up and the Battledome

[UMaxii]

I recently started playing again and I never really used the battledome feuture, I have no clue how i have to get stronger (i know there are a couple of places to train for dubloons and other stuff). I'm talking about what weapons are good to start with (I currently have 2 neopets, both are level 1). I don't know how to obtain the items needed to train except the shop wizard. And even if I had them, what that's are most beneficial for battle? How and where can I get good quality weapons for a cheap price? I can currently only battle the Clown on the most easy mode and that's still a 75-25% chance of winning. I really am clueless haha. Well thanks in advance for the people who read and commented on this post.

Greetings, UMaxii

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[discobiscuit]

Start with the Swashbuckling Academy.  It requires dubloons, which aren't very expensive to buy using the shop wizard.  The cost in dubloons goes up in tiers based on what level your pet is at.  So, train as much on defense, strength, and endurance (you can skip training speed) as you can before moving up a level.  You can only have twice as many points in any one attribute as your level, so really you're going to be training 2 on strength, 2 on defense, 2 on HP and then 1 on level.

You can get dubloons randomly from Coltzan's shrine and other dailies, but they're easy to find in the shop wizard, too.

The Academy only goes to level 40.  After that, you have to use the Mystery Island Training school and courses cost codestones, which are expensive.  It still makes sense to train up the defense, strength, and endurance twice for each level at the Academy, it's just that the process costs much more np.

The good news, codestone-wise, is that you can earn them by fighting in the battledome.  The bad news is that there are 7 (I think) different types of codestones and you almost never win the exact right one from the battledome that you need to train.  So, you have to buy most of them (with the shop wizard).

[UMaxii]

13 minutes ago, discobiscuit said:

Start with the Swashbuckling Academy.  It requires dubloons, which aren't very expensive to buy using the shop wizard.  The cost in dubloons goes up in tiers based on what level your pet is at.  So, train as much on defense, strength, and endurance (you can skip training speed) as you can before moving up a level.  You can only have twice as many points in any one attribute as your level, so really you're going to be training 2 on strength, 2 on defense, 2 on HP and then 1 on level.

You can get dubloons randomly from Coltzan's shrine and other dailies, but they're easy to find in the shop wizard, too.

The Academy only goes to level 40.  After that, you have to use the Mystery Island Training school and courses cost codestones, which are expensive.  It still makes sense to train up the defense, strength, and endurance twice for each level at the Academy, it's just that the process costs much more np.

The good news, codestone-wise, is that you can earn them by fighting in the battledome.  The bad news is that there are 7 (I think) different types of codestones and you almost never win the exact right one from the battledome that you need to train.  So, you have to buy most of them (with the shop wizard).

Thanks for this very datailed explanation, any tips on weapons in the battledome? There are multiple types of weapons/magic etc. no clue what is best for beginners.

[Duma]

There is a good guide here that might help you pick the weapon you like, depending on the amount of NP you have you can pick a beginner weapon or get more expensive weapons that might be of good use for a longer time. As you train the weapons will do more damage too.

http://www.thedailyneopets.com/battledome/basic-battledome-weapon-sets

For some more explanation about the boosts, check this page: http://www.thedailyneopets.com/battledome/strength-defense-boosts/

Personally, I keep a healer item and a bomb item in my set at all times and I have 2 main heavy damage weapons. At the moment I have a few weapons that were given out as prizes in the plot. For the defense weapons I just have a variety depending on what kind of icons the opponent does. I switch those when I'm about to fight a strong opponent.

Also, don't forget to train abilities as you level up. The lens flare at level 50 is a great help!

[UMaxii]

16 minutes ago, Duma said:

There is a good guide here that might help you pick the weapon you like, depending on the amount of NP you have you can pick a beginner weapon or get more expensive weapons that might be of good use for a longer time. As you train the weapons will do more damage too.

http://www.thedailyneopets.com/battledome/basic-battledome-weapon-sets

For some more explanation about the boosts, check this page: http://www.thedailyneopets.com/battledome/strength-defense-boosts/

Personally, I keep a healer item and a bomb item in my set at all times and I have 2 main heavy damage weapons. At the moment I have a few weapons that were given out as prizes in the plot. For the defense weapons I just have a variety depending on what kind of icons the opponent does. I switch those when I'm about to fight a strong opponent.

Also, don't forget to train abilities as you level up. The lens flare at level 50 is a great help!

Ah i see, seems like this is just going to take time more then anything since both my neopets are lvl 1 haha. thanks, you are a great help.

[xoxlexox01]

Good luck with training :).

It will take a while to train .

[Kute]

I like to use faerie quest fortune cookies from the NC mall. They are 1 dollar and last 9 days. This with the combination of a training school will really get your pet leveled up quick. Good luck :) 

[rntracy1]

I'm with Kute. I also use the FQ fortune cookies to train as well.  They are great when you pair them with the FQ refresh boon from the obelisk battles.  I only open a cookie when I win that boon.  It never fails though, I rarely use the boon, and of course, the last day, when the boon is gone, I ALWAYS get the air faerie.  lol.  I just abandon her quest.  The FQ fortune cookies are 100 NC but they do, at times, go on sale for 60 NC.  You can train at either training school while you are using the cookie too.  

Some good, cheap weapons at your level and stats that I would look into are, the ridiculously heavy battle hammer, scroll of ultranova, ultranova, (one sometimes multi use) stone muffin (one use) virtupets x-514 super shield, magical healing potion, meteor bomb, gilded war hammer.  Those should be good to get you started, defended and healed at your current stats.  And are very affordable. Good luck.

[discobiscuit]

6 hours ago, UMaxii said:

Thanks for this very datailed explanation, any tips on weapons in the battledome? There are multiple types of weapons/magic etc. no clue what is best for beginners.

Definitely take a look at the guides and the battlepdedias.  I didn't have any battledome experience before returning to my account 2 years ago, and had no idea what to expect, so I did found them helpful.  However, they can't tell you what is "best" or even affordable because that changes with the times and conditions.  For example, if you have a super expensive powerful shield that will absorb 100% of any dark based attack, but your opponent only uses light or water attacks, that best shield is as effective as the worst shield.

Spend the time with your lower training levels fighting lower level opponents and see how everything works.  Don't invest millions or even hundreds of thousands of np yet.  There are plenty of imperfect weapons and shields out there to be had for 1,000 np that will help you practice fighting.  Once you're into the swing of things, you'll say "Man, I wish I had something that would heal me while blocking earth attacks" or something.  Then, research that to death, and spend tens of thousands of np getting the best for your level.

I didn't buy anything greater than 100K np until this month!  The plot we're in required fighting wraiths who delivered 2-300 points of damage and I kept getting smacked around.  I bought Hansos Charisma Charm but that's only good against dark based attacks.  So be patient on weapons. 

Remember, you can heal your pets for nearly free every 30 minutes, so it's OK if you get damaged.

Also, take part in various neopets events (like plots or the altador cup) because prizes often include decent (and sometimes excellent) battledome items.

 

[Aquamentis12]

This is what's nice about TDN. So many people have offered you excellent advice. It's really hard to build on what has been suggested to you. I will say that a staple for a newer battler, should be the item, Downsize! https://items.thedailyneopets.com/items/downsize

Avoid Downsize Power Plus, as it is one use and then it's gone for good. The item, simply spelled Downsize! with the (!) at the end, works ONCE PER BATTLE, and when used it blocks a whopping 50% of damage for that 1 turn.

If you could post your current battle set and any faerie abilities you have, perhaps we can give more tailored advice? Other info that would be useful includes; Pet species and stats, what kind of budget are you looking at to spend, and lastly, is there a specific 1p opponent you'd like to defeat?

Depending on these factors, it should be fairly easy to figure out some good items and upgrades for you.

Training is definitely important! I find it more useful than buying super expensive weapons. While you're training, finding a balance between training and equipment is a good idea. Weak weapons will get stronger as your train, but it can take a long time training from one boost to the next. Boosts are multipliers. The number of Icons a weapon does, is multiplied by your boost-level, to create your Maximum damage. This number will not go higher, and will go DOWN depending on how the opponent defends itself. If you can freeze your opponent, then the maximum damage will be inflicted. Freezing items are great, but expensive! This link shows the boosts, at what stat they are activated, and what boost-multiplier is.
http://www.thedailyneopets.com/battledome/strength-defense-boosts/
Presently, the limit is at 750 Strength and Defense, multiplier of 16. So a weapon that only has 1-icon, will do 16 damage at most.

Regarding less-useful stats.

Agility, is mostly worthless to train, only  a couple of weapons use this stat. If you get to 201 agility, you can use the, imho only item that is worth training agility for. The Heavy Robe of Thievery. It steals 1 random item from your opponent for the duration of that battle. However, stealing is currently NOT working.

Intelligence, there are a few pieces of equipment that require INT, mainly equipment from Brightvale. Off the top of my head, the Heavy Blue Tunic, if I recall correctly, requires 1000 INT to work properly. I think that's the highest INT requiring item.

Also, training Endurance/HP is fine, but I do recommend keeping it trained at 2x your level, like your Strength and Defense stats. At least until you get your Strength and Defense to 750. Because HP can be trained to 3x your Level. But if you do that, THEN YOU HAVE to train Level BEFORE you can train your other stats. Since other stats can only be trained to 2x your level, the level must be raised until the HP is 2x the Level.

I try to keep my stats pretty balanced, even though I've long since exceeded the limit, I could increase my HP now, but I'm used to the balanced way of training. LOL

I hope this helps. :)

[UMaxii]

9 hours ago, Aquamentis12 said:

This is what's nice about TDN. So many people have offered you excellent advice. It's really hard to build on what has been suggested to you. I will say that a staple for a newer battler, should be the item, Downsize! https://items.thedailyneopets.com/items/downsize

Avoid Downsize Power Plus, as it is one use and then it's gone for good. The item, simply spelled Downsize! with the (!) at the end, works ONCE PER BATTLE, and when used it blocks a whopping 50% of damage for that 1 turn.

If you could post your current battle set and any faerie abilities you have, perhaps we can give more tailored advice? Other info that would be useful includes; Pet species and stats, what kind of budget are you looking at to spend, and lastly, is there a specific 1p opponent you'd like to defeat?

Depending on these factors, it should be fairly easy to figure out some good items and upgrades for you.

Training is definitely important! I find it more useful than buying super expensive weapons. While you're training, finding a balance between training and equipment is a good idea. Weak weapons will get stronger as your train, but it can take a long time training from one boost to the next. Boosts are multipliers. The number of Icons a weapon does, is multiplied by your boost-level, to create your Maximum damage. This number will not go higher, and will go DOWN depending on how the opponent defends itself. If you can freeze your opponent, then the maximum damage will be inflicted. Freezing items are great, but expensive! This link shows the boosts, at what stat they are activated, and what boost-multiplier is.
http://www.thedailyneopets.com/battledome/strength-defense-boosts/
Presently, the limit is at 750 Strength and Defense, multiplier of 16. So a weapon that only has 1-icon, will do 16 damage at most.

Regarding less-useful stats.

Agility, is mostly worthless to train, only  a couple of weapons use this stat. If you get to 201 agility, you can use the, imho only item that is worth training agility for. The Heavy Robe of Thievery. It steals 1 random item from your opponent for the duration of that battle. However, stealing is currently NOT working.

Intelligence, there are a few pieces of equipment that require INT, mainly equipment from Brightvale. Off the top of my head, the Heavy Blue Tunic, if I recall correctly, requires 1000 INT to work properly. I think that's the highest INT requiring item.

Also, training Endurance/HP is fine, but I do recommend keeping it trained at 2x your level, like your Strength and Defense stats. At least until you get your Strength and Defense to 750. Because HP can be trained to 3x your Level. But if you do that, THEN YOU HAVE to train Level BEFORE you can train your other stats. Since other stats can only be trained to 2x your level, the level must be raised until the HP is 2x the Level.

I try to keep my stats pretty balanced, even though I've long since exceeded the limit, I could increase my HP now, but I'm used to the balanced way of training. LOL

I hope this helps. :)

Wow this is a big page of information. Thanks a ton for this, you took litteraly like 10 or more minutes to help me, I greatly appreciate that. And yes, this is super usefull thanks a ton :).

[Aquamentis12]

13 hours ago, UMaxii said:

Wow this is a big page of information. Thanks a ton for this, you took litteraly like 10 or more minutes to help me, I greatly appreciate that. And yes, this is super usefull thanks a ton :).

Great!! lol It was definitely more than 10 minutes. XD I'm so glad it's all useful info for you! If you've any other questions feel free to ask! We're here to help after all!

If there is a 1p opponent you'd like to focus on, you can find stats for almost every 1p opponent here.

http://battlepedia.thedailyneopets.com/index.php/oneplayer/index/

We don't have the Wraith info there, but I've got stats on all the Wraith opponents so far that I've posted in the Wraith Resurgence forum (in a couple threads) on the TDN Forums here. I can also copy and paste the info here if necessary.

If you need advice about tackling a specific opponent, again please feel free to post. We're here to help after all, it's a great community here. If you do post about an opponent, please include battle pet stats, equipped equipment, and budget and I'm sure you'll get lots of good advice! Happy battling!!