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[GillyTook]

Hm, sounds like the broom could be a potential, but I tend to fight the same guy (koi warrior until I can do the giant whale, haha)  and the obelisk guys, so dunno if it'd be good.  Might see what I can sell it for.

Thanks

OH!  Also, I'm finally in the secret ninja school with Col_Mack!  Woo hooooooo!  I can finally sell all the tan codestones I get from the battledome.  Not complaining... at least until I get to where she's taking 8 reds and 24 hours to train, hahaha.

[Aquamentis12]

On 3/27/2025 at 11:07 AM, GillyTook said:

Hm, sounds like the broom could be a potential, but I tend to fight the same guy (koi warrior until I can do the giant whale, haha)  and the obelisk guys, so dunno if it'd be good.  Might see what I can sell it for.

Thanks

OH!  Also, I'm finally in the secret ninja school with Col_Mack!  Woo hooooooo!  I can finally sell all the tan codestones I get from the battledome.  Not complaining... at least until I get to where she's taking 8 reds and 24 hours to train, hahaha.

Sorry for the delayed reply.

The broom used to be a HUGE deal, now, maybe not so much. I never had one so I don't really know how sellable it is. But you never know, when the Void plot comes back, it MIGHT be of some use to you, or not.

You're welcome

First off, CONGRATS! I checked out Col_Mack's stats and they are growing nicely!   You can sell the tan codestones, or you can visit the Techo Mountain volcano on Mystery Island and toss in the 10 random Tan Codestones it asks for to get a random Red Codestone in return. Depending on how the Red Codestone market changes once the plot starts up again, it might end up being cheaper to do that for some of your training needs.

LOL Yeah, you really don't have to complain at all then. There are only 6 types of Red Codestones and the MAXIMUM training time caps out at 12 hours. Also, if you cancel a training session, you MUST wait a full 24 hours before you can train that pet again.

Happy training! ^_^

[GillyTook]

Oh, I didn't know the mountain took the time to train down.  That's nice.  It took me forever to get to a high enough level to start training there because I could never figure out the exact time I'd started training.  Tsk.  Isn't selling them the better bet?  Besides that, I've got nearly 100 of each of the reds saved up (thank youuuuu, koi warrior!!!) so it'll take me a WHILE to go through them to need some of the others for plot training.  

[Aquamentis12]

The mountain doesn't reduce the training time, just asks for 10 tan codestones and spits out 1 random red stone.

If you have that many red codestones you should be set for training for quite a while. But you might also be surprised at how quickly the training goes since you're on the 1 red stone training tier which only takes 4 hours per session. At least until you get to level 300 when the 2 red codestone tier begins, but it only goes up to 6 hours then. Still pretty quick.

But sure, sell your tan codestones if you like. I'm just saying converting them to reds might prolong your training. See, I'm out of reds, have been for awhile, so either I use what I can from battle, or take a bit of time to go through my SDB and send some tan codestones into the volcano. Or, If I'm feeling like I don't want to mess with the volcano, I'll just buy the reds I need from the Shop wiz. And hope for a decent deal since I need 6 red stones per session.   I'm in training daily, sometimes more than once a day, it adds up. lol

[GillyTook]

I... said that completely wrong.  I don't know what I was thinking.  Nice that the highest level school does not take as long at the highest levels as the one below it does.  

That said, I got a Skarl's Sword today from the weekly quests.  Is that good to keep, or should I toss it in my shop?

[Aquamentis12]

On 4/7/2025 at 1:28 PM, GillyTook said:

I... said that completely wrong.  I don't know what I was thinking.  Nice that the highest level school does not take as long at the highest levels as the one below it does.  

That said, I got a Skarl's Sword today from the weekly quests.  Is that good to keep, or should I toss it in my shop?

It's ok.

Skarls Sword is an epic tier weapon, and one of my absolute favorites of all time! Not only does it look awesome, but it's attack is 21-25 icons and it blocks ALL light. So it's just under Jhudora's Wand and SAP, but if you're going to sell it, I would recommend looking at auctions first, since they are all selling there or on the TP. Wouldn't want you to undersell it. Before it got into the weekly quest rotation, you could only buy them from other users for about 2,500,000,000 Neopoints. It was originally from a rare TCG code from the base set of the original Neopets IRL TCG booster packs.

[GillyTook]

Woooow.  Jellyneo said it's currently at about 5 million NP.  I wonder if I should keep it for a while until the prizes rotate again and hope the price goes up again.  I could buy a fair few books with that kinda np.

[Aquamentis12]

On 4/9/2025 at 2:59 PM, GillyTook said:

Woooow.  Jellyneo said it's currently at about 5 million NP.  I wonder if I should keep it for a while until the prizes rotate again and hope the price goes up again.  I could buy a fair few books with that kinda np.

It depends, I've seen some sell in auction for 1mil or less. Kind of the luck of the draw. You certainly could hold onto it and see though! Good luck!

[granny63020]

OK I want to fight this King Skarl and I do but every time I start to fight with this one his starting points are 2800. It says the high is 1600. I have fought him 5 times. I beat him even though his start is 2800. I just don't want to fight with him starting at 2800 instead of the 1600 like it says. I don't know of any way to change it to 1600. Is it possible or do I just have to accept what they throw at me? I don't want to play on medium. So, I was just asking if you have any ideas on what to do about this. I am guessing I really can't do anything about it. The 5 times I have played him I have won so no loses against this challenge. LOL Only a matter of time before I do lose fighting him at starting 2800. 

[Aquamentis12]

11 hours ago, granny63020 said:

OK I want to fight this King Skarl and I do but every time I start to fight with this one his starting points are 2800. It says the high is 1600. I have fought him 5 times. I beat him even though his start is 2800. I just don't want to fight with him starting at 2800 instead of the 1600 like it says. I don't know of any way to change it to 1600. Is it possible or do I just have to accept what they throw at me? I don't want to play on medium. So, I was just asking if you have any ideas on what to do about this. I am guessing I really can't do anything about it. The 5 times I have played him I have won so no loses against this challenge. LOL Only a matter of time before I do lose fighting him at starting 2800. 

Hi Granny! Sounds like you're fighting him on the Mighty-difficulty. The 1600 is just the difficulty, not his actual HP. Here's the breakdown of King Skarl's HP vs Difficulty and his equipment.

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King Skarl
Difficulty - HP -NP
200  -  350Hp  -  200Np
600  -  1050Hp- 1200Np
1600-  2800Hp- 4800Np

Weapons
Skarls Sceptre
Sand Blade
Genie Orb
Boom Stick
Prismatic Mirror
Skarls Amulet
Rainbow Scorchstone
Stone Hourglass

I tend to fight Scordrax for getting NP. I know he can drop a rare drop, but the other stuff I get from the Cosmic Dome isn't very good, and right now I need Red Codestones, or something I can sell, so I still mainly battle Snowager on Easy for the prizes, and for NP I go after Scordrax. Scordrax has 1600hp on Mighty and the same NP payout as King Skarl on Mighty. So unless you're going after a specific item drop from King Skarl, you could switch to Scordrax for a shorter battle. With the max boosts, I can beat Scordrax in 2 rounds.

[granny63020]

I battle in the Cosmic Zone. I play against all of them  but don't like Primary Grundo Bot RZ894on hard.  I never play on anything but the hardest difficulty. King Skarl  & Scordrax  both drop an album item That's the reason to play the King.. I got the one from Scordrax (2 times). Skarl I have played but I only want to album item. I was just going by the 1600 is says on the fight page. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't need NP's or items. I am only battling for the album items.

[Aquamentis12]

3 hours ago, granny63020 said:

I battle in the Cosmic Zone. I play against all of them  but don't like Primary Grundo Bot RZ894on hard.  I never play on anything but the hardest difficulty. King Skarl  & Scordrax  both drop an album item That's the reason to play the King.. I got the one from Scordrax (2 times). Skarl I have played but I only want to album item. I was just going by the 1600 is says on the fight page. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't need NP's or items. I am only battling for the album items.

Ah I see. You're after King Skarl's album item. Unfortunately you just have to fight him on hard with the different HP. I don't know why his HP number is different from his difficulty number. But TNT has pretty unfathomable reasons for much of what they do. Having them be the same WOULD be simpler and make more sense. Good luck getting the charm! I hope you get it soon!  

[granny63020]

OK Just thought I would let you know I finally got that stamp album from King Skarl. I fought him everyday up until I got the item today. It's says his fight points is 1600 BUT when you go to fight him his start points are 2800. What trickery neo is pulling, I need only fight him again if I wnt to try for another.

[Aquamentis12]

On 7/25/2025 at 4:19 PM, granny63020 said:

OK Just thought I would let you know I finally got that stamp album from King Skarl. I fought him everyday up until I got the item today. It's says his fight points is 1600 BUT when you go to fight him his start points are 2800. What trickery neo is pulling, I need only fight him again if I wnt to try for another.

Hi Granny! Difficulty and max HP are different. I think the difficulty is the boost for the opponent. Even though it goes a LOT higher in some cases than the boost tiers our neopets get. 

[granny63020]

I don't mid the hit points. Ijust don't like being deceived.  If it says the hit points are 1600 then that's what it should be, (not 2800). Nothing I could do to change it. I finally got the stamp album piece I was battling for. Thanks for your input. Always a big help when I need advice. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. 

[Aquamentis12]

19 hours ago, granny63020 said:

I don't mid the hit points. Ijust don't like being deceived.  If it says the hit points are 1600 then that's what it should be, (not 2800). Nothing I could do to change it. I finally got the stamp album piece I was battling for. Thanks for your input. Always a big help when I need advice. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. 

Right, I agree with you. The way I see things with the BD is it's TNT's house, and we just gotta play by their rules, no matter HOW weird or unfair they seem, feel, or might be. Congrats on getting the album piece you were after! I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend too!

[lithiumkat]

A little birdie told me this was the place to go to really beef up your battledome set and have something good going on.

Okay so lemme tell ya what I got going on currently.

My main battledome pet is darkside_of_the_pink and her stats are: 120 hit points, 63 agility, 113 attack, and 69 defense.

current equipment attached: turned tooth, pretty negg shield, cursed elixer of neovia, ridiculously heavy battle hammer, grenanna potion, amulet of the dark faerie, wand of ultranova, and palace guard sandals.

If I'm honest I pretty much only use the shield, the turned tooth and the elixer of neovia.

Oh, and my abilities are: Static Cling, Shade, Cranky, An Icicle, and Lens Flare.

I'm hoping for some advice to beef things up. I have plenty of NP though I'm not super adept with trading post I'm willing to give er a shot as I'd really like to put together a nice set.

Thanks in advance I really appreciate it,
*Sarah*

[oceanblue5333]

Hello Aquamentis12,

I absolutely love this!  I'm a relative noob when it comes to battling, just doing enough to get in and out quickly - while avoiding some of the higher level challengers.  I would like to get up to a point that I can actually battle the highest levels.

I've been slowly leveling up my pet to get better stats in Island Training. Below is what I currently have in my arsenal. I generally start with Varia and Wand while using lens flare, then f/u with Grapes of Wrath and either Turned tooth or Thunder sticks and use burrow ability. Defense is lacking for sure, but not sure what I would need to give up in that place.  I am looking at getting a Leaded Elemental Vial and using in place of the Soup, but not sure if that is the best plan. Any advice would be welcome and appreciated!! Thank YOU!

 

[Aquamentis12]

17 hours ago, lithiumkat said:

A little birdie told me this was the place to go to really beef up your battledome set and have something good going on.

Okay so lemme tell ya what I got going on currently.

My main battledome pet is darkside_of_the_pink and her stats are: 120 hit points, 63 agility, 113 attack, and 69 defense.

current equipment attached: turned tooth, pretty negg shield, cursed elixer of neovia, ridiculously heavy battle hammer, grenanna potion, amulet of the dark faerie, wand of ultranova, and palace guard sandals.

If I'm honest I pretty much only use the shield, the turned tooth and the elixer of neovia.

Oh, and my abilities are: Static Cling, Shade, Cranky, An Icicle, and Lens Flare.

I'm hoping for some advice to beef things up. I have plenty of NP though I'm not super adept with trading post I'm willing to give er a shot as I'd really like to put together a nice set.

Thanks in advance I really appreciate it,
*Sarah*

Hi @lithiumkat, I'm glad the birds are chirping about this topic! Hopefully you'll find some of the information here useful.

So, sounds like you've got a decent rookie battler for a battle pet. First off do you know what the boosts are as far as Strength and Defense go for training? If not, they are the numerical points where your strength and defense actually improve.

For example, your strength is at 113. So your weapons will do 2.5 damage per icon that hits your opponent. Your defense is 69, so each icon that your pet blocks will protect you from 2 damage per icon. Between the boost points, or you can call the boost a multiplier, your attack and defense don't change in battle at all. I know, it's an ODD system they came up with. lol Here is a link to TDN's guide on Strength and Defense boosts.

https://thedailyneopets.com/battledome/strength-defense-boosts

Looking at it I see it needs some minor updating as TNT added 2 new boosts to it fairly recently.

Here's what finishes off the strength and defence boost chart. 750 to 799   16 damage 800 to 849   17 damage 850+ 18 damage

Once your get Strength and Defense to 850, there's little to no point to training them anymore. My pet's strength is currently over 4000 and he still does the same as as pet with 850 strength. Anyway, so you know what your attack and defense is per icon now, and by looking at that chart, you can also train and work your way towards getting to the next boost/multiplier for Strength and/or Defense. Some people don't worry much about defense, but I like a balanced build. You could go Strength and HP, then use full blockers too, but that can be a bit pricey as well. Especially some of the dual duties, weapons that can attack and defend at the same time. I'm putting your equipment breakdown and my recommendations behind a spoiler tag, to shorten the post's initial display length.  Turned Tooth Can do 13-22 potential icons. KEEP THIS! Cursed Elixir of Neovia Attacks with 2 physical icons and heals 40HP once per battle. Decent heal, but, 2 icons attack is weak. You're only doing 5 damage if both get through. I'd suggest replacing it with a "Helm of Recovery" (No attack, heals 50hp). "Greater Healing Scroll" would work too, as it can now be super cheap as well from Volunteering at the hospital, Act 2 slots. Both should be REALLY cheap these days. Ridiculously Heavy Battle Hammer 9 icons, replace it. If you want MORE healing, and have several mil NP to burn. A "The Mystical Tablet" would have the same attack, plus full blocking of Dark and Physical Icons, plus a slight heal of 3-30hp each turn. A cheaper idea would be another "Turned Tooth", or "Hanso Charisma Charm", which has 10 attack and blocks 100% darkness. Grenanna Potion About 4 icons of air and 4 of dark. Replace it. For defense, if you need it, "Downsize!", it's relatively cheap and blocks 50% of ALL damage once per battle. Amulet of the Dark Faerie 2 dark attack, defends 1 icon each of Light and Dark. Ditch this! Wand of Ultranova Generates an Ultranova, which COULD be useful, but it wastes a turn doing that and can break forever. Sell it! Palace Guard Sandals Attacks with 4-6 physical icons, defends 3 earth icons. Too weak for you. Pretty Negg Shield Blocks 60% of Earth and Light, Reflects 20% of Earth and Light. Useful, but only if your opponent attacks with Earth and/or Light. The voids don't use much of either as I recall. You can keep it in your set if you like. So basically, this would leave you with 1 Turned Tooth, 1 Hanso Charisma Charm, 1 Pretty Negg Shield, Downsize!, either 1 Helm of Recovery or Greater Healing Scroll. Which means you have 3 empty slots to fill. If you want more defense, I can recommend some defensive items for each of the different icon types. I can also recommend some purely offensive weapons too. But I guess I'd like to know how many turns does it usually take you to defeat your opponents? And which opponent(s) do you fight most often? See, if I know at least whom you fight, then I can tailor the remaining 3 slots with items that will help you with that or those opponent(s). Otherwise, you could try a 2nd Turned Tooth, use both of them with Lens Flare on your first turn and hope you do enough damage to take down the opponent in 1-3 turns. I can recommend items you won't have to trade for that will help, but knowing who you're facing is pretty important. Also, if you want to know what to expect from the opponents, we have 1-player profiles for ALL of them here. https://thedailyneopets.com/battledome/secret-challengers Clicking on their weapons will tell you what each weapon does. I hope that helps a bit, when you answer my questions I'll be able to recommend more items for you.

7 hours ago, oceanblue5333 said:

Hello Aquamentis12,

I absolutely love this!  I'm a relative noob when it comes to battling, just doing enough to get in and out quickly - while avoiding some of the higher level challengers.  I would like to get up to a point that I can actually battle the highest levels.

I've been slowly leveling up my pet to get better stats in Island Training. Below is what I currently have in my arsenal. I generally start with Varia and Wand while using lens flare, then f/u with Grapes of Wrath and either Turned tooth or Thunder sticks and use burrow ability. Defense is lacking for sure, but not sure what I would need to give up in that place.  I am looking at getting a Leaded Elemental Vial and using in place of the Soup, but not sure if that is the best plan. Any advice would be welcome and appreciated!! Thank YOU!

 

Hi @oceanblue5333, A pretty decent set of stats there, not to mention your battle equipment is on par with an Elite set. (Gotta love the Elite Prizes in the Void prize shop. lol)

Ok, so with your Strength boost/multiplier, you're doing 7.5 damage per icon that gets to your opponent. And defensively you are blocking 5.5 damage per icon blocked. Which is you surmised with your set, there's not much blocking to go on there.  

First off, your set is, like I said, pretty Elite.

The Wand, Thunder Sticks, Grapes of Wrath and the Feel Better Soup is fine as a healer for now, 50% is good and it blocks ALL air icons on the turn it's used.  Grapes of Wrath does a constant 24 icons of damage, while Wand of the Dark Faerie does 21-29 icons. So the wand averages SLIGHTLY more damage than the Grapes, so basically, they're about even in that regard. The Wand can reflect 75% of Light damage though, so if you're fighting a foe that uses Light, you definitely want to use The Wand. But that's assuming that they LIVE long enough too. lol If you use your Varia is the Bomb (25 icons) with either of those two, it'll be devastating.

 Looking at your set, you can get rid of Turned Tooth, and Void Blade. Unless you plan on fighting long-haul opponents that take more turns and have different icons than what your Grapes, Varia, or Wand has. Keep Illusens Staff in case you NEED it's 13.6-19 icons of Earth and Physical attack, or it's Dark Blocking Defense! Definitely keep your Thunder Sticks too! 16 icons of attack is still decent and it can help if you don't have something like a shield to use it if your opponent uses Physical, since Thunder Sticks block 100% of Physical icons on the turn they are used.

If you want defensive weaponry, I can recommend some generically for each element, or I can tailor some to whatever opponent(s) you like to fight against. This is TDN's list of all secret opponents, old and new.
https://thedailyneopets.com/battledome/secret-challengers

Each profile has their HP, and complete arsenal for your perusal. So you can see what they have and I can recommend items to help you deal with those weapons of their's. Once I know whom you're fighting.  

Let me know and I'll see what I can do to help you further.