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[GillyTook]

I'm wasting all my luck on neopets instead of real life where I need it it seems 

So for now should I just keep it and see what enemies are in the plot (though I'm guessing that it'll be dark)?

[Aquamentis12]

5 hours ago, GillyTook said:

I'm wasting all my luck on neopets instead of real life where I need it it seems 

So for now should I just keep it and see what enemies are in the plot (though I'm guessing that it'll be dark)?

LOL It would seem so! I just got the lame 100k as my weekly quest prize (again), I'm gonna skip it to hopefully change it for something better.

Well, that's entirely up to you. If the enemies for the plot have Dark icons, you're already protected 100% from those icons when you use The Mystical Tablet. So you'd only need Kings Lens to Reflect 50% Earth or 50% Light. Both of Which have cheaper means to block or reflect. One of those Roxtons Trusty Bowie Knife items for example, is around 600-700k. That blocks 75% Earth. While an Expert Lens would Reflect 50% of Light, a Parasol of Unfortunate Demise (about 900np) would Block 100% of Light and a few icons of Earth and Water.

Honestly, since it's rare I could see keeping it for that reason, or for a gallery item. But, otherwise, you might be better off selling it. You could recoup some of the np you spent on your Varia is the Bomb. Last price I saw for a Kings Lens on the TP is 2.2 mil, which must be since it became a weekly prize. So it would put some NP back in your coffers at least.

But the decision is up to you. About the only thing I can see the Kings Lens helping you with off-hand would be a few high-end items. Such as Skarls Sword, or Seasonal Attack Pea for example. Those are examples of where it would reflect 50% of MORE than 1 icon type because those weapons have multiple icon types. It would reflect chunks of other bulk-icon type weapons. Including 50% of the earth parts of any of the pea family weapons, 3 of the anagram swords from the Hidden Tower, and a couple of the other HT and Smuggler's Cove weapons. Without having to change equipment. So really, it's up to you as to what you feel would be more useful. The item, or the NP.

[GillyTook]

Well it finally happened!  Col Mack is at a high enough level that she is on 12 hour training sessions.  If I'm lucky, I can get the 250 bonus on at least one of those stats before any plot-based fighting starts.  

This is the equipment currently.  Are there any good all around shields that are buyable/not obscenely expensive that I could use to replace both of those?  Other than that, seems okay, right?  At least for someone like me who doesn't have tons of experience, and is still training my girl up regularly.  

[Aquamentis12]

1 hour ago, GillyTook said:

Well it finally happened!  Col Mack is at a high enough level that she is on 12 hour training sessions.  If I'm lucky, I can get the 250 bonus on at least one of those stats before any plot-based fighting starts.  

This is the equipment currently.  Are there any good all around shields that are buyable/not obscenely expensive that I could use to replace both of those?  Other than that, seems okay, right?  At least for someone like me who doesn't have tons of experience, and is still training my girl up regularly.  

Wow, you're really moving along!!

Ok, I see you're using a Parasol of Unfortunate Demise. If you count your Feel better Soup as Air Defense, but only on the 1 turn per battle you can use it, then you're just lacking Fire defense.

I would STILL suggest getting a Downsize! from either Defence Magic or from a Player Shop. As once per battle it blocks 50% of ALL damage on the turn it's used.
https://www.neopets.com/shops/wizard.phtml?string=Downsize!

However, Other items to consider so you have some Air and Fire defense would be....

Shield of Faerieland
Blocks 5 fire, 5 physical and ALL Air.
Was Cheap after the Fragments event, now seems to be up around 9-10mil, still cheaper than buying it from the Hidden Tower, which is 12 mil.

Or

Faerie Tabbard
Blocks 5 fire, 5 physical, 3 air, 3 earth, ALL water.
7.5 mil in the Hidden Tower. Didn't see any on the TP or in auctions.

OR

Golden Scorchstone
Blocks 3 Air, 5 Fire
This is "cheap" or would be if it wasn't an r98. Runs about 137,400np+ on the Super Wiz right now. It has a rating of 1 on JellyNeo's Battlepedia. But, it does block some air and some fire at the same time. So that's up to you and whatever your budget is. You can try to buy one from the Defence Magic shop too, where they restock.

I'd say, get a Downsize! And use it. If you need Light/water/earth protection, then Swap it out for the Parasol of Unfortunate Demise at that time. There are a couple other items I could suggest, such as the Frozen Cyodrake Shield or Thyoras Tear, but those will cost you much more than they are worth due to war-inflation. Though Frozen Cyodrake Shield would be pretty Ideal for Air and Fire defense if it weren't so exceptionally rare and costly.

[GillyTook]

What should I put the Downsize! in place of?  

I'm still a bit of a coward who sticks to enemies I can kill in one round, so it hasn't been an issue YET, but I'm sure it'll eventually be a thing I need to worry about. 

[Aquamentis12]

On 6/8/2024 at 7:58 AM, GillyTook said:

What should I put the Downsize! in place of?  

I'm still a bit of a coward who sticks to enemies I can kill in one round, so it hasn't been an issue YET, but I'm sure it'll eventually be a thing I need to worry about. 

I'm sorry for the late reply. Put downsize! in place of the Parasol of Unfortunate Demise for now. And put the Parasol in your SDB until you feel you need it.

It's perfectly fine to stick with enemies you can handle easily for now. We're merely prepping you for when the battle portion(s) of the plot come around so you can do your best when the time comes for you to fight opponents that might be tougher than you.

Though, it can be kind of fun actually. Challenging tougher opponents. I don't know if the Defenders of Neopia series 1 or 2 are still not working or if they fixed them yet, but if they were working, I would suggest you challenge yourself by clearing those challenges. Since some of them do get quite tricky. but if they are not working, there's really only yourself to motivate you into trying tougher opponents on harder difficulties. Some opponents drop some better specific items at harder difficulties.

Anyway, it can also be a good way to learn about the BD and different item combos. That's how I learned about the BD, experience. Since I was, and frankly still stink at earning NP via restocking. I'm always looking at cheaper items to help give me a slight edge that might be JUST enough to win. lol I even tried using a Double Dryer and a Bubble Blaster to see how using those together would work during one of the war plots. Turns out, the Double Dryer reflects 50% of air, but then it broke, the Bubble Blaster then reflected 25% of the remaining air icons, but that too, eventually broke. lol But, it DID allow me one or two more victories before the wave I was fighting got too strong for my peophin to win anymore. I wanna say I think that was during the War of Maraqua plot..... Or maybe Hannah and the Ice Caves.... been so long I really can't recall for sure. lol I don't even remember the components to make the Bubble Blaster, just that it's something you can make at the Cooking Pot. lol

Anyway, I've gotta go to bed. Don't worry about tackling tougher opponents. That'll come with time and participating in plots if you don't want to do it without a plot to motivate you. I like the strategy involved in battling, so it's a good brain-exercise in my view of it. If you feel like tackling something stronger, TDN has all the current profiles of the Active Challengers here so you can research them. If you are wondering about some equipment to take on a specific stronger opponent, feel free to post and I'll try to help you figure something out. Also listed are the challengers of previous wars and plots. It can be fun seeing what old challengers had to work with, back when those were titans, when compared to more recent challengers, those titans of yore would be chumps with their outdated weaponry. lol

https://thedailyneopets.com/battledome/secret-challengers

Have a good one.

[GillyTook]

I wish they would allow us to play the old plots without the fights like they do the Altador plot.  Oh well.

Right now, I'm getting a lot of codestones from the koi warrior on hard, so I don't really see a a need to chance yet.  I don't know of anything else that'd give me the np to sell for enough to make up for that.  

Does defenders (assuming it's been fixed) scale to your pet's level, or does it just stop when you hit a wall for what your pet can take out?  Edit:  Looks like it has not been fixed.  Boo.

[Aquamentis12]

2 hours ago, GillyTook said:

I wish they would allow us to play the old plots without the fights like they do the Altador plot.  Oh well.

Right now, I'm getting a lot of codestones from the koi warrior on hard, so I don't really see a a need to chance yet.  I don't know of anything else that'd give me the np to sell for enough to make up for that.  

Does defenders (assuming it's been fixed) scale to your pet's level, or does it just stop when you hit a wall for what your pet can take out?  Edit:  Looks like it has not been fixed.  Boo.

Like a battledome simulator for past battles, oh that would be AWESOME!

Yeah, and you need the codestones for your training, so there's not any major reason to change. I agree with the logic in that.

A shame Defenders hasn't been fixed. It's not scaled, but I think with the new BD, you could probably face the opponent on any difficulty and still complete each challenge. I purposely completed Defenders series 1 and 2 in the old battledome before they changed over, just in case. So I couldn't confirm that for certain from experience. I think DoN has been down since they brought in the new battledome, though I could be mistaken on that.

Hmmm.... You could probably do some of the harder DoN series 1 battles. Looking at some of my victory screenshots from back then, my peophin was about in the same shape as your Ixi is, stat-wise when it took on some of the tougher DoN Series 1 opponents. I'll put them behind a spoiler thing so as not to take up a ton of room, these were apparently from 2012.

Your weapons are much stronger than mine were back then, but also, these opponents have the same weapons as they had back then, just updated Faerie abilities. I'm not sure what their HP and boosts are relative to their difficulty settings are, Easy, Normal, Mighty, but If their HP is comparable to what you see their max HP is in these screenshots you should be able to beat them at whatever that difficulty setting is.

[GillyTook]

I want to do the whole plots, not just the battles!  That'd be fun.  I have had my account for decades, but had a long hiatus and missed all but the Wraith Resurgence.  

I hadn't even considered the battledome before recently (the last plot sort of got me into it, and lately I've really thought it seemed fun) so sadly wouldn't have bothered before they changed to the new 'dome.  Ah well.  Maybe I can hope they'll fix it one day.  

[Aquamentis12]

13 hours ago, GillyTook said:

I want to do the whole plots, not just the battles!  That'd be fun.  I have had my account for decades, but had a long hiatus and missed all but the Wraith Resurgence.  

I hadn't even considered the battledome before recently (the last plot sort of got me into it, and lately I've really thought it seemed fun) so sadly wouldn't have bothered before they changed to the new 'dome.  Ah well.  Maybe I can hope they'll fix it one day.  

Sure. That's fine! I definitely understand that.   Ah I see. lol I checked your lookup, and it seems that you started playing about 6 months before I did. lol Guess we're both a couple of veteran players then. That's cool that you got into battling at all. I mean, some players never do. Even WITH the plots. I find fun in challenging the harder opponents. I remember when a friend I've since lost contact with got me to sign up for the site. When I started playing, I found myself finding it hard to earn NP, but battling I could do... or so I thought. lol
My early battles were horrible, I still remember having to forfeit my first battle, to Punchbag Bob. lol My peophin was so low in level and I THOUGHT there HAD to be SOME sort of unarmed attack I could use. I was half-right. I needed to be a few levels higher for him to learn the first of the old species ability-attacks that were removed when the replaced the old battledome. Peophin Trample, I believe it was called. A very weak attack. But, I didn't know any better. lol Every species had some of these attacks, I think the last one was learned around level 15 or so. Species all had some natural resistances and weaknesses too. Peophins had a weakness to fire, which I THINK might still be in effect with the Wheel of Excitement. If it lands on the Laval Ghoul and he breathes Fire on my Peophin, my peophin loses more than half of his HP. Which would only make sense if the weakness to fire from the BD was applied, which doesn't make sense OUTSIDE of the BD, especially since those were supposed to have been removed as well, so... I dunno. lol

The BD certainly has it's own unique battle system, that's not entirely a compliment, but not entirely a slam either. lol I'd say it's somewhere in the middle, like most of what TNT seems to come up with. lol Pros AND cons abound. lol

Anyway, sorry for rambling. I HOPE that they fix Defenders of Neopia. I've been wanting some new challengers for it for awhile, even before the new dome. Just one of many things they need to get to fixing though, so here's hoping they get to it someday soon! The challenges ARE fun and they give us something to shoot for! Plus the comics for each DoN challenge were pretty creative. Leading up to each challenge, and after you beat the villain, the comic updates and the final page post-challenge was pretty neat too! You felt good about accomplishing it.

At least whenever they get it fixed, you'll definitely be ready for the challenges that already existed. If they add some new ones, then who knows? lol But you should at least have some fun trying.

[GillyTook]

I know some of the weapons are new, but do you know if any of the ones we'll be able to get from the plot prize shop are any good?  Obviously it'll need to wait a while before we can actually earn them, but some of 'em might be power boosters, right?

[Aquamentis12]

7 hours ago, GillyTook said:

I know some of the weapons are new, but do you know if any of the ones we'll be able to get from the plot prize shop are any good?  Obviously it'll need to wait a while before we can actually earn them, but some of 'em might be power boosters, right?

Actually, there are no new, original weapons in the the Plot reward shop. They have all existed before this plot.

The best ones to look at are Wand of the Dark Faerie, Grapes of Wrath, Thunder Sticks, Thyoras Tear, and Extra Loud Techo Fanatic Megaphone

Wand of the Dark Faerie can be gotten from Jhudora's quests, the 50th quest. It can do 20-29 icons of damage, reflects 75% light, no other defense, and heals 25% of your HP when it's below 25% of Max.

Grapes of Wrath is a Smuggler's Cove item, 24 icons, multiuse. 1 icon less than Varia is the Bomb.

Thunder Sticks, was from a couple AC's ago. 16 icon attack, defends 100% physical and freezes 100% once per battle.

Thyoras Tear. r99 and still restocks at Defence Magic. Once per battle it will negate ALL damage done on the turn it is used. Like Downsize! but double the power. lol

Extra Loud Techo Fanatic Megaphone, from last year's AC. Like Roxton's Trusty Bowie Knife, it has a 15 icon attack and Blocks 75% of an element, only this one blocks 75% AIR. When this is used with Roxton's Knife, which blocks 75% of Earth, you can severely reduce the power of a Super Attack Pea to 25% of it's max power. Provided your opponent has and uses a SuAP on the turn you use these 2 weapons together of course. 

The other weapons are less than you'd want for your set. Void Blade and Gemmed Sword of Light, despite their vast price difference, both do 16 icons. lol The Grey weapons are even weaker.

If you've any other questions, as always, feel free to ask.

[GillyTook]

Sooooo, definitely should try for the tear, yes?  Do any of the 1p opponents typically have super attack peas?  If not, I don't think I need to worry about the megaphone.

Did I ask this already?  Are there any good defenders that do ALL of the elements, or is it just pick and choose and have a bunch of stuff in the SDB to trade in and out if I want to battle something else and/or a plot demands THAT element?  Wait, the weapons ALL have elements, don't they?  Lol, just when I think I'm starting to understand ANY of it. . .

I've still got the pin grenade (though is that a no trade?) so would the grapes (we're allowed to type that word here, right? ) be worth it, or would they be comparable?  

I got Illusen's staff from the faerie. . . whatever it was last year (shoot, I don't think I've spent all my points yet, either.)  So basically Judhora's is the same, only different element?  I've only really got it there because I don't have anything better.  I normally don't need to rely on it with the double grenades.  So far anyway.

[Aquamentis12]

4 hours ago, GillyTook said:

Sooooo, definitely should try for the tear, yes?  Do any of the 1p opponents typically have super attack peas?  If not, I don't think I need to worry about the megaphone.

Did I ask this already?  Are there any good defenders that do ALL of the elements, or is it just pick and choose and have a bunch of stuff in the SDB to trade in and out if I want to battle something else and/or a plot demands THAT element?  Wait, the weapons ALL have elements, don't they?  Lol, just when I think I'm starting to understand ANY of it. . .

I've still got the pin grenade (though is that a no trade?) so would the grapes (we're allowed to type that word here, right? ) be worth it, or would they be comparable?  

I got Illusen's staff from the faerie. . . whatever it was last year (shoot, I don't think I've spent all my points yet, either.)  So basically Judhora's is the same, only different element?  I've only really got it there because I don't have anything better.  I normally don't need to rely on it with the double grenades.  So far anyway.

The Tear c/would replace your Downsize! nicely, OR, if you needed a bit of extra defense, The Tear and Downsize! on different turns would give you 1 turn with 0 damage and 1 turn taking 50% damage. So there's that strategy too.

Most 1p opponents don't use Peas, but there are other weapons that use Air or Earth (Earth in the case of Roxtons Trusty Bowie Knife). There is an Anagram Sword for each element for example, Or, The Pirate Captains Cutlass uses a lot of Air too, same for the retired Ghostkersword. It's really up to you how you spend your prize points, I was just saying which weapons are worthwhile to consider.

If you want a defender that handles all Elements, the Tear and Downsize! are pretty much it for common items. There were some SUPER RARE prizes given out to one or two neopians in the first or two War Plots that Neopets had, before I started playing, that could block ALL damage as well like the Thyoras Tear, but I don't know if those players, or those items still exist.

LOL You're getting the idea, ALL weapons have elements to them. When I give you the icons they do for damage, I don't always give type out the elements they use to attack, that would be a lot of extra work. If we're talking Defense items, I DO type out the types of icons defended. When you battle 1p, especially if you're freezing them with Lens Flare, Warlock's Rage and possibly a Freezer weapon, that's 3 turns they can't attack, So often that should be enough to defeat them without having to worry about them defending against your attack icons. But like you can defend against their attack icons, each 1p opponent has equipment that can defend too. Some even HAVE Thyoras Tear, or a full healer like a Jade Scorchstone, and they can use them MORE than once! Which isn't fair, but that's TNT for you. Jade Scorchstone, btw, is a retired full healer.

Anyway, the equipment listed in TDN's 1p profiles has the offensive and defensive stats for each piece of equipment. If you're not going to freeze your opponent, then you simply match your weapons to elements they don't defend well against, and you equip defensive equipment that matches most of what their weapons attack with. It's pretty simple, but can be a bit tedious if you check EVERY piece of equipment each time you fight someone new. LOL I used to do that when I didn't know many of the weapons though.

Ok, the Thistleberry Pingrenade was from a Game Master's Challenge I believe, so you should be able to sell it if you wish, or at least look it up on the Shop Wizard to see what it's going for and decide if you want to sell it.

It has a variable attack, but has a maximum of 24 icons, which is what the Grapes of Wrath does every turn. So replacing the Thistleberry Pingrenade with Grapes of Wrath would be a good move. The icon types are slightly different. Thistleberry Pingrenade has Earth and Physical, whereas the Grapes of Wrath are Earth and Fire.

Wand of the Dark Faerie is actually Stronger than Illusen's Staff in attack and healing ability. The difference is in defense. I'll type both stats out for you.

Illusens Staff has an attack of 13 Earth and 0.6-6 Physical icons
Defense ALL Dark
Reflects 75% Dark icons if Light element is also received in the same attack. (The explanation gets pretty confusing from what I read). But if Dark is reflected, you take 25% damage from the remaining dark that isn't reflected instead of blocking the 25% it seems.
Heal 20% of max health when health is below 20% of max health

Wand of the Dark Faerie has an attack of 20 dark and 0.9-9 Physical icons
Defense none
Reflects 75% of Light
Heal 25% of max health when health is below 25% of max health.

Even at it's weakest attack, Wand of the Dark Faerie does 1.9icons more damage than Illusens Staff is capable of doing at it's maximum. But, against a Wand of the Dark Faerie, Illusens Staff would reduce it's attack down to 0.9-9 physical icons only, and would not be hampered by the WoDF's light reflecting ability. Though if the opponent was using a Leaf Shield (The Green one from Illusen's Quests) that would put a damper on an attack from Illusens Staff, ironically. lol Wouldn't totally block it, but it would take a chunk out. But if you attacked with Grapes of Wrath and Illusens Staff, you'd get more icons through while only taking the Physical icons from an attack from a Wand of the Dark Faerie.

I hope that helps!

[GillyTook]

So for my lineup, I'd have grapes, Varia, the pea, the tear, the soup, and have 3 spots left for. . .  the tablet, the staff, and the wand?  Or should I pick something else besides those?  Keep the downsize+staff or wand?  

I am a super incredibly lazy bum and would like to keep ONE set total for my battledoming (doing it to train now, and will eventually do it for stuff to sell, I suppose, when she gets to a high enough level) where I can just improve things ever so often as new stuff comes out, if that makes sense?

 

Also, really, game, I had to waste a refresh for that?  TSK!  But her stats are ever so gradually improving!  

[Aquamentis12]

9 hours ago, GillyTook said:

So for my lineup, I'd have grapes, Varia, the pea, the tear, the soup, and have 3 spots left for. . .  the tablet, the staff, and the wand?  Or should I pick something else besides those?  Keep the downsize+staff or wand?  

I am a super incredibly lazy bum and would like to keep ONE set total for my battledoming (doing it to train now, and will eventually do it for stuff to sell, I suppose, when she gets to a high enough level) where I can just improve things ever so often as new stuff comes out, if that makes sense?

 

Also, really, game, I had to waste a refresh for that?  TSK!  But her stats are ever so gradually improving!  

Well..... You could do either, but actually. Given that The Mystical Tablet blocks 100% of Dark AND Physical, it should COMPLETELY NEUTRALIZE Wand of the Dark Faerie! While doing a 9 icon attack and that small amount of healing. So, I would say, you could probably sell, or at least store or put Illusens Staff in your gallery if you wanted to. IF you got a Wand of the Dark Faerie of your own that is. You would still have 3 healing items too. Feel Better Soup, The Mystical Tablet, and with Wand of the Dark Faerie, you'd be gaining an extra 5% healing to 25% of your max health when it falls below 25%, whereas Illusens Staff only does 20% So really, you'd be pretty well set with that set. Then you could keep Downsize for a bit of Extra defense if you needed it besides the Tear.

Or, if you wanted you could replace it with something specific that may come out in the future that you might want. Like, if they fix Stealing in the Battledome. Get your Agility above 200 (201 or greater) and your int above... I think it has to be above 67, and you could use a Heavy Robe of Thievery. ONCE they fix stealing in the dome. Otherwise the robe is pretty useless. If you meet the Stat-requirements, The robe will steal 1 random item 100% of the time once per battle from your opponent. I LOVED using it against Envy during the Obelisk War, stealing his Prismatic Mirror was a dream come true, when I stole THAT item. lol That item is not available to us, only certain 1p opponents get it, but it reflects 81%-100% of every element except physical and can be used as much as you want.

oooo Your pet is doing GREAT with the training! You've almost got both Strength and Defense to the 250 boost! Wonderful!   Keep up the great work!

[GillyTook]

4 hours ago, Aquamentis12 said:

oooo Your pet is doing GREAT with the training! You've almost got both Strength and Defense to the 250 boost! Wonderful!   Keep up the great work!

~12 more hours and I'll have both 

I'm really really hoping I never have my health fall below that in a battle!  It's stressful enough when it does when I get blasted by the snowager or something and go into something I know I can take out in one turn to use the soup a couple times.  

 

Guess we'll be waiting to see how many reward points the whole thing awards us, huh?  I'll definitely keep that post bookmarked though so I can use it.  Thank you!

[Aquamentis12]

9 hours ago, GillyTook said:

~12 more hours and I'll have both 

I'm really really hoping I never have my health fall below that in a battle!  It's stressful enough when it does when I get blasted by the snowager or something and go into something I know I can take out in one turn to use the soup a couple times.  

 

Guess we'll be waiting to see how many reward points the whole thing awards us, huh?  I'll definitely keep that post bookmarked though so I can use it.  Thank you!

Cool! It can happen sometimes though. When I get blasted by Snowager, and especially if I need to buy an item for a daily quest, I'll buy a Healing Potion XXII from the Healing Springs, and use that on my peophin. For him the 225hp it heals is still below 20% of his max HP, so in battle, since right now I tend to battle "Snowy" (on easy), I start out with my freezer, my Illusens Staff, and the faerie ability Rejuvenate. Rejuvenate gives you a full heal if you take damage that turn, but the damage you take is subtracted from your restored HP.

Since Snowy can use the Shhhh! ability, if he uses that, it will shut down Rejuvenate. Which is why I also have my Freezer AND Illusens Staff as my weapons for that first turn when I start the fight injured. If Rejuvenate works, the 2nd turn I use my Bag of Healing Dust (50% heal) to finish healing, my Ghostkerbomb and an attack ability like An Icicle or Summon Monoceraptor (which can only be used once per day). to finish off Snowy. If Snowy uses Shhhh! and blocks Rejuvenate, then it'll be two battles for a full heal. My 2nd turn will be the same either way. Because Illusens Staff won't heal a 2nd time in a row if I didn't take enough damage to knock my HP back below 20% of my max HP.

In a 2nd battle to finish healing, I'll start off with Freezer, Bag of Healing Dust, and Lens Flare. Then on the next turn, Ghostkerbomb, Varia is the Bomb, and An Icicle. An Icicle is a little overkill when using those weapons at the max strength boost, but meh. lol Snowy on Easy has 750hp. I can't come close to beating him on Medium yet. lol I don't have enough HP to survive. lol

Also, I read that Wand of the Dark Faerie is a "Priority Weapon", meaning it will go first. I don't know if it will heal BEFORE Feel Better Soup activates or not. But if it DOES, then that would be like having a 75% heal if you were below 25% of your max HP and used Wand of the Dark Faerie in slot 1 and Feel Better Soup in slot 2. I THINK!   Against a war opponent, or if you ever happen to go up against another player, that might be something to try out. See if it works and helps you win.

[GillyTook]

Oh gosh, doubt I'll be able to beat the snowager on easy for ages still I can do the koi warrior in one turn with my pea easy peasey (I'm so sorry) so the soup just runs me two fights to heal fully if I'm in trouble.  It's just the figuring out strategy if anything we'll be facing will take me more than a round that's the issue.  Don't have the rejuvenate yet, though I DO always start out with lens flare.  Means I can do my daily battles in however many takes it is to get all 15 items.  

[Aquamentis12]

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easy peasy

Oh yeah, there's a good BAD pun! Couldn't HELP but laugh at it!

Yeah, Normally, if my peophin is at full health when I go against Snowy, I'll use Ghostkerbomb, Varia is the Bomb, and Lens Flare to take him out in 1 round.  The difference between Easy and Medium for Snowy is insane. 750hp for Easy, isn't so bad. But on Medium, if I'm remembering correctly, it skyrockets to 15,000hp! And he can 1-shot me with damage left over! lol I traded for a Hubrid's Puzzle Box awhile back to see if that would help. It KIND OF did, but I still could only get him down to around 8,000-9,000hp before I ran out of Defensive stuff. Right now I'm built more for offense, and at that time, I hadn't really rebuilt my set for defending against Snowy, even so, I would need better blockers than I have most likely to be more effective against the raw power he's got at Medium difficulty. lol A Thyoras Tear would make for an excellent experimental piece to see if I could make any further headway against him on medium.

Oh yeah, Hubrids Puzzle Box, it's an older weapon, but an interesting one. You have to use it 3 times to actually use it. First turn, it changes shape, 2nd turn it gives you a statue of Hurbid, if I recall correctly, and then on your 3rd turn, you can use that to remove 1/3rd of your opponent's current health. So at 15,000 HP, and say I'd knocked it down to about 12,000 by that turn that I could use the statue, it would still take about 4,000 more of his HP away reducing him to around 8,000hp.  But using it takes up a weapon slot for each of those 3 turns. The first 2 turns I can use a  Weapon, Hubrids Puzzle Box, Lens Flare. 2nd turn is Freezer, Hubrids Puzzle Box 2, and Warlocks Rage. 3rd turn is Statue of Hurbid, Weapon, and Level 500 Ability.

After that, Rounds 4 and on I'd have to defend while I attack. So only a 1-weapon attack since 1 slot would have to be used to defend at least some of the incoming damage. But that's where Downsize! would come in, to get me to Round 5 at least. I could try the Faerie Ability "Meh" with Downsize! to decrease damage slightly further too.

After that, it'd be PURE luck, with my current equipment and Faerie abilities to get to Round 6. LOL But, maybe with a Wand of the Dark Faerie and a Thyoras Tear, I could maybe just barely survive a battle with Snowy on Medium? lol After the plot, it's certainly worth a shot.

[Duma]

In light of the event I've updated my weapons a tiny bit too. Not sure how to improve it better unless I spend like tens of millions. I am hoping to get enough points for a Thyoras Tear (to replace Downsize!) and maybe Grapes of Wrath or Wand of the Dark Faerie to change out for Sword of Reif / Kelpbeards Trident or Void Blade. I do hope they fix the stealing so I can try that. Never used it before but I wonder how well it would work, hence the Heavy Robe of Thievery. Other suggestions are always welcome.

[Aquamentis12]

Nice Duma! I honestly don't recall what your set used to contain, but this one is certainly heavy on the offense! With a good mix of icon variety!   Yeah, there's not much you CAN do for your set without spending a lot of NP. I mean, IF you needed some shields or reflectors for some SPECIFIC element(s) for some SPECIFIC opponent(s) we could talk some weaker shields and reflectors that could at least take a dent out of some of what you were up against. I take it your strategy is using Lens Flare, Warlock's Rage and Sleep Ray to give you up to 3 rounds of Free Attacks, right?

I ask because other than the Downsize! I don't see much in the way of defense. LOL Not that I'm one to talk either with my current set setup.   But, I would not be surprised if TNT came up with some way of making us need either MORE than that strategy or something OTHER than that strategy to win some of the battles. I mean, they DID say that there would be some opponents to challenge the veteran battlers. We don't know what that means, but we should expect them to do something about the 3-free rounds strategy. I just HOPE they don't make it so that Shhh! can cancel out Lens Flare and Warlocks Rage by going first. That would really stink! And it'd be even tougher for the newer battlers imho. Though, it would bring things kind of back to where they were with the OLD faerie abilities that only had a chance of freezing opponents, instead of 100% chance of stopping them from acting.

Anyway, if you haven't put much concern into defense, or don't have many defensive items in your SDB, you might consider some items that don't cost an arm and a leg that you could get that might help shave off some icon damage. I don't know the prices, but some items off the top of my head would be some dual duties and defenders like Hanso Charisma Charm to block all dark with a 10 icon attack. Parasol of Unfortunate Demise, to block all Light, and some earth and water icons. Roxtons Trusty Bowie Knife for a 15 icon attack and blocks 75% of Earth. Flaming Oven Gloves may be kinda weak, Blocks 5 Fire and 2 Light, but it's some fire defense, saved my bacon several times when I was a young battler. lol Not sure how they'd work with the max boosts though, still. They're cheap too. Leaf Shield from Illusen's Quests is still good for Earth, Water, and Physical. Just the first few pieces of equipment that came to mind. Altadorian Swordbreaker, only a 6-icon attack, but blocks all Physical. That would just leave Air that's not defended in any of those items, I think. Hmmm..... Double Dryer, the 50% reflector is decent and not too expensive.  Let me do some quick looking.....  Ok, With your pet's Int-stat, Parchment Cloak would give you protection from several icons, +5 Air icons thanks to your INT being above 150. Or there's one of my old standby items, the Earthen Scorchstone, good for Air AND Darkness. Greater Defense Scroll defends 5 Air Icons too. If you want a Dual-Duty that can defend Air. Bubble Wands, only blocks 3 Air icons, but has a 9-icon attack.

This is all on a budgetary thing of course. There are better options, but like you said, you don't want to get into the millions or tens of millions of NP range. So I'm just having a little fun typing out some of the budgetary items.   Anyway, some of these items MIGHT actually help you in a pinch, depending on what TNT decides to throw at us.

I always keep a few items of varied defensive items in my SDB to swap out just in case, old habits die hard after all. Even though, truth-be-told, I've become somewhat complacent with this current battle system and using Lens Flare and Warlocks Rage if/as needed. That's one of the reasons I'm excited for the plot, hoping for a shake-up in the strategies.

Oh yeah, on Heavy Robe of Thievery. Provided TNT gets Stealing fixed in the BD, I think you'll enjoy it. Especially if you steal a really good weapon from your opponent! Mine has been sitting in my SDB since stealing broke, gathering dust. I'm looking forward to being able to using it again, fingers crossed!

[Duma]

10 hours ago, Aquamentis12 said:

I take it your strategy is using Lens Flare, Warlock's Rage and Sleep Ray to give you up to 3 rounds of Free Attacks, right?
 

Right. So far I've only been battling 1P, mostly for Obelisk war's so I only needed 1 turn anyway, but for harder opponents I at least have 3 "free" turns.

10 hours ago, Aquamentis12 said:

Anyway, if you haven't put much concern into defense, or don't have many defensive items in your SDB, you might consider some items that don't cost an arm and a leg that you could get that might help shave off some icon damage. I don't know the prices, but some items off the top of my head would be some dual duties and defenders like Hanso Charisma Charm to block all dark with a 10 icon attack. Parasol of Unfortunate Demise, to block all Light, and some earth and water icons. Roxtons Trusty Bowie Knife for a 15 icon attack and blocks 75% of Earth. Flaming Oven Gloves may be kinda weak, Blocks 5 Fire and 2 Light, but it's some fire defense, saved my bacon several times when I was a young battler. lol Not sure how they'd work with the max boosts though, still. They're cheap too. Leaf Shield from Illusen's Quests is still good for Earth, Water, and Physical. Just the first few pieces of equipment that came to mind. Altadorian Swordbreaker, only a 6-icon attack, but blocks all Physical. That would just leave Air that's not defended in any of those items, I think. Hmmm..... Double Dryer, the 50% reflector is decent and not too expensive.  Let me do some quick looking.....  Ok, With your pet's Int-stat, Parchment Cloak would give you protection from several icons, +5 Air icons thanks to your INT being above 150. Or there's one of my old standby items, the Earthen Scorchstone, good for Air AND Darkness. Greater Defense Scroll defends 5 Air Icons too. If you want a Dual-Duty that can defend Air. Bubble Wands, only blocks 3 Air icons, but has a 9-icon attack.

I always keep a few items of varied defensive items in my SDB to swap out just in case, old habits die hard after all. Even though, truth-be-told, I've become somewhat complacent with this current battle system and using Lens Flare and Warlocks Rage if/as needed. That's one of the reasons I'm excited for the plot, hoping for a shake-up in the strategies.

Oh yeah, on Heavy Robe of Thievery. Provided TNT gets Stealing fixed in the BD, I think you'll enjoy it. Especially if you steal a really good weapon from your opponent! Mine has been sitting in my SDB since stealing broke, gathering dust. I'm looking forward to being able to using it again, fingers crossed!

 

I have about 285 different battledome items in my SDB, I do have Hanso Charisma Charm, Parasol of Unfortunate Demise, Roxtons Trusty Bowie Knife, Flaming Oven Gloves, Leaf Shield, Earthen Scorchstone and Bubble Wands. So I have at least some decent defense items I can add to my set, but I'll decide when I know what damage they do and whether or not the stealing is fixed. If I can't use the Heave Robe of Thievery, I might as well add a defense item. At least that's the idea.

Altadorian Swordbreaker might be a good option if they do a lot of physical damage. I'll keep that one in mind for sure! Along with the Parchment Cloak. Thanks!

[Aquamentis12]

56 minutes ago, Duma said:

Right. So far I've only been battling 1P, mostly for Obelisk war's so I only needed 1 turn anyway, but for harder opponents I at least have 3 "free" turns.

I have about 285 different battledome items in my SDB, I do have Hanso Charisma Charm, Parasol of Unfortunate Demise, Roxtons Trusty Bowie Knife, Flaming Oven Gloves, Leaf Shield, Earthen Scorchstone and Bubble Wands. So I have at least some decent defense items I can add to my set, but I'll decide when I know what damage they do and whether or not the stealing is fixed. If I can't use the Heave Robe of Thievery, I might as well add a defense item. At least that's the idea.

Altadorian Swordbreaker might be a good option if they do a lot of physical damage. I'll keep that one in mind for sure! Along with the Parchment Cloak. Thanks!

LOL Yeah, the Obelsik bosses are pretty easy with the max boosts. XD One and Done. lol With the right weapons of course.

Ah cool! LOL I should check on my spare BD items since it's been so long, though I know a LOT of them are junk I got from stealing from sleeping Snowager.   lol That's cool that you've already got a lot of the items I mentioned! XD Btw, if you do want a cheap Light reflector that to the best of my knowledge doesn't break. Expert Lens is the way to go., 50% Reflect, same as Dual Battle Mirrors, but it's from Coltzan's Shrine, and there should be plenty in player shops for cheap if you don't have one already from visiting the shrine. I probably have several dozen in my SDB so I could send ya one if you don't already have one.

[Duma]

I just checked and I have 1 Expert Lens in my SDB too. Thanks for the offer though! That's very kind of you. Maybe when the actual battles have begone I'll come back to see how to build my set. Others can do the same and we can all get ideas from each other!