Squidmama Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I was just talking to my friend how I was going to get crazy rich and buy Neopets. The first thing I would do is make the Neoboard an 18 or older thing and if my minions saw you posting naked pictures they'd tell you to loose a few pounds and suspend you for an hour like a normal chatroom. Lawl. Okay, uuum, I would expand real merchandise. Like, you wouldn't be able to leave your house without getting a Lupe plushie. Reinstate the magazine and have it be monthly. Teeshirts. Cards. Video Games. Maybe even a TVshow. I would then reduce the ads to only the main page and they'd only be neopet related, redirecting the clicker to a shop that sells our swag. I would then reorganize the top bar because its a bloody mess :U I would then expand the Neomall. Money would still be the easiest way to get them but the user would be able to convert neopoints to neocash but the exchange rate would be annoyingly high like a hundred thousand neopoints for a 100 neocash causing everyone to complain for a while but then I'd whip my Neoteam up to come up with a plot that involved fairies and Count Roo at the very least and I would allow neopets would be able to be UC and make all clothes wearable. And make interaments useful by allowing Neoplayers to make bands. And players would have an option to make a fairy avatar that would represent the user. And more merchandise. And uuum have more design your own pet contests and my customer service would be top notch 'cause the people I'd hire would get fired so fast if they didn't please my players :I. And more merchandise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeló Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 make a Neopets movie .... that would be awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vocaloid Marshmallow Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Like Angelo said, make a Neopets movie! I wouldn't make it so unfair for those people without NC. I'd make a way to get free NC other than Qasalan Expellibox. There should be more ways to make money for a busy person who can't spend much time on Neopets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luciana Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I would sell it for more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSummer Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 i'd make training free but more time consuming that way it would equal out the free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piticent Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 i like your ideas! However, can you sell NC? That might be a bad idea if you can...about the whole expanding merchandise. I like it, I want it revived, but you shouldn't push it ;) TNT got a lot of complaints when they opened NC Mall... Oh yeah! I'd add more flash stuff for the clothing. It seems so dull sometimes. Like flash backgrounds :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcoolb Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Add a couple Draik and Krawk Transmogrification Potions to my inventory. So my Gebs, Ghostkerbombs, other super rare weapons aren't so lonley. ;) Also, I would make it easier to get NC or make less things require NC... I would make it so you could take things out of the TP faster, and raise the TP offer limit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslines Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 These are all based on just the last few days of playing, but, rather a large list. First and foremost, do something about the in-game economy. I used to play neopets back when I was a kid, and the economy ran reasonably. The estimated value for an item was usually about how much you could get it for. I joined up again a few days ago, after finally giving up on getting back into my poor abandoned old account, and was annoyed as heck to find that almost NOTHING goes for the estimated value. Everything's either over-inflated by the users, or more commonly, worth absolutely nothing because the neopets staff have flooded the marketplace with items that were once worth a decent amount, reducing their value to nothing due to the commonality, lower demand, and hyping the competition amongst users to resell them at a lower price. There's a word for that, but I can't remember what it is. So I'd fix that. No idea how, but I'd work it out. Next, rearrange the site. The top bar is messed up, and it took me ages to figure out how to get to some of the basic things, like the Battledome. And why is customization on the bar instead of in the drop list? Surely it would be more useful to have the Inventory button there, and move customize down the drop list. One of these things needs accessing more often than the others. And I'd scrap the closet. Having to move something in there by hand is increasingly frustrating when it would be no more coding to just have it list the items in your inventory. Heck, it probably took them more code to implement that, not to mention a whole new database. I'd clean up the site. Wipe all the accounts that haven't been accessed in more than maybe three years. They don't do this properly at the moment, though they say that they do in their FAQ. My old account is still sitting there, and I haven't accessed it in at least four, maybe five years. They've said there's no email registered for it, which means they've wiped it from the records and rendered it unrecoverable, but it's still up, which means there are five names that can't be used by anyone else. I don't know if they currently plan to do this themselves, and if they don't they should, but I'd scrap all the old non-wearable clothing items. Either make them unavailable to get any more, which would eventually attract collectors, eventually increase the value of them and releasing a new non-wearable item briefly every few months to keep collectors happy. Or implement them so you can wear them. The second option would be more work, but would probably make more people happy in the end. I'd upgrade the site in general. It's still using technologies that are a decade old. It still uses Shockwave which has been outdated for a long, long time. And the games too! So many of them have been around since I first started playing some seven and a half years ago, a few having had a bit of a clean-up but otherwise being the same game. Why? It's just... This site is old and has hardly moved forward at all in its years. Avatars that someone has collected would be viewable from their look-up. That you can't do that has always annoyed me. Remove ads from the beginnings of the games, and confine them to certain parts of the site. Run more age and content appropriate ads. It's still primarily a kids site, what are ads for cars and flights and fish oil doing on it? Nickelodeon probably paid the bare minimum for ads, meaning that Google runs it and just generates A ad for something, with the most control they'd be getting whether or not to allow adult content. Might get some ProjectWonderful ads on it, for kid-friendly webcomics. Separate the forums into a section for people under sixteen, over sixteen, and maybe give some sort of subtle direction to an officially non-affiliated site for adult content for users who are over the legal age of consent in their country, since this is the internet. Scale back the restrictions like woah, because this is getting ridiculous. When you can't say suck or the harser version of "what the heck", that's just... Wow. I know kids are starting to use the internet at younger and younger ages, and this is some kind of supposedly well meaning protection or some other bullshit, but wow. Over the top. The under sixteens would probably still be restricted from swearing, except for maybe crap, but it'd only get them a warning or a quick silence unless they were repeat offenders or using it for harassment. Acronyms with swears in them would be fine. As would another word for butt. Seriously, who bans that? There are some things around the site that seem like they were originally great concepts for things that were abandoned. Like the lair of the beast in Tyrannia. I'd pick those back up and do something with them. I might change the art for the pets themselves. It all seems so simplified and homogenous, all the poses and things. Not to mention the addition of eyelashes to the females. I really don't like that, it just doesn't seem necessary. I'd tinker with the FAQ. Currently, any FAQ questions found through the search function just take you to the main page of the FAQ rather than to the specific question you clicked on. That's some very poor design. The search function within it is quite poor as well. As for merchandise, I'd want more of it. I'd eventually want every in-game plushie available as real world items, with corresponding rarities. T-shirts would be good, as would a real world card game that matches in in-game one. It should be more accessible. Try and get it into more stores in the US, and just generally into everywhere else where it's harder to find. Where I live there's only one store that sells any, and it barely has any range or stock. I'd lower prices a little, and start an online store. I'd introduce sponsored promotions where I can that would reward with small amounts of neocash rather than larger amounts of points. I'd make neocash and items purchased with it giftable, but not trade-able, and have an option to exchange neopoints for neocash. An exchange rate of about 10k neopoints per one neocash. Depending how well that went, it might be lowered to 5k. It's not hard to make 10k in a few hours, playing games or having luck on the wheels and random events. Might lower the prices on the items too. Small basic items shouldn't be more that a dollar, shouldn't really be more than fifty cents. That's all I can think of at the moment... 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Duckyz Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I completely agree with lslines, the other ideas sound nice but would completely ruin neopets imo. Bank interest needs diminishing returns once it hits a certain amount, a 100k wheel isn't gonna dent some of the rich old users who have insane bank interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasavo Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I would get rid of the NC mall. I'm afraid that eventually Neopets will make it possible for players to buy with real money neopoints, which would ruin the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachiee Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 The first thing I'd do is hire more moderators for the Neoboards, and make it so there's a little more freedom of speech on the Neoboards as well. (What I mean by this is, you wouldn't get sussed/silenced for saying stuff like "I love you," "this sucks," "party," "wedding," etc.) I'd also try and spend more money on more staff members. Neopets is severely understaffed- especially the Neoboards. (Does that place even have monitors? o.o) Then, I'd give users the option to unconvert their pets via a paintbrush or morphing potion. It wouldn't matter if the pet was created after April 27, 2007 (the day Customization went into effect), the only thing that would matter is if the pet was painted something like Darigan, Faerie or Grey (assuming it wasn't converted immediately). I'd also put more real-world merchandise into circulation at mainstream stores like Target, Claire's, Justice (formerly Limited Too), Toys-R-Us, et cetera. I really like lslines' idea of in-game plushies and cards being sold in real life, as well as the T-shirts idea. With the merchandising idea in mind, I'd be all in favor of bringing back the TCG cards and Neopets Magazine. (This also means putting back issues back into circulation.) I also believe users should be given the option to delete their newer Neohome. Personally, I never use mine and I hate the concept of Flash-based Neohomes. They're pretty laggy even on my uber-fast Macbook. :/ Well, that's all that has came to my mind. If I think of anything else, I'll edit this post with more ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naamah D. Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'd make lab maps buyable with Neocash....and they'd never go out of stock....isn't Naamah generous???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidmama Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 lslines and I basically had the same ideas, Ducky lolol. But oh yeah I forgot about how jacked up the economy was. Uum, I'd also allow you to auction any item again! They changed that so you can't auction anything lower than like 5 neopoints but some 0-1np estimated items are quite sought after when they're released in say the Advent Calendar. I'd also back off the "take no money for neopet commission rule." That one always rubbed me the wrong way. Fan Art makes sure artist don't starve to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeperetz Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Nearly all of the above things, in my opinion, are stupid... -Fix Customer Support -Update Battledome and Restocking System -Implement another large (but non 3D/computer killing) section such as the Battledome -Teach monitors how to dispose of the obvious cheaters (such as all the impossible scores just sitting in the HSTs every day...) Otherwise, everything they do Neocash wise and Conversion wise is completely fine... they aren't going to make fantastic np items while people are buying NC items... and they aren't going to give you the option to not customize when it took so long to make it so you can customize. How your pet looks slightly different doesn't matter... find something else to complain about. The need an insane amount of server space, etc. for the millions of people that play the game... the fact that the site is still free is reason enough to be willing to support them through the NC mall or something by itself. Have you ever played another online game as developed as neopets? No. Because there are none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidmama Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 This thread is about what you do if you'd own it ;w; don't be harshin' other people's ideas, Mike, that's not cool. But I do agree with the Battledome. I'd revamp that too. My friend just had a brilliant idea! XD Every birthday of the site there would be a cake baking-decorating contest and the winner would be able to paint one pet Birthday Cake XD Birthday Cake painting! Birthday Fairy! More fairies. Glubglubglub. I'd totally make the Tooth Fairy have quests and the Grey Fairy. I love them X3 Edit: Also, male faeries and allow the gender to of the user to be invisible if they wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslines Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Nearly all of the above things, in my opinion, are stupid... -Fix Customer Support -Update Battledome and Restocking System -Implement another large (but non 3D/computer killing) section such as the Battledome -Teach monitors how to dispose of the obvious cheaters (such as all the impossible scores just sitting in the HSTs every day...) Otherwise, everything they do Neocash wise and Conversion wise is completely fine... they aren't going to make fantastic np items while people are buying NC items... and they aren't going to give you the option to not customize when it took so long to make it so you can customize. How your pet looks slightly different doesn't matter... find something else to complain about. The need an insane amount of server space, etc. for the millions of people that play the game... the fact that the site is still free is reason enough to be willing to support them through the NC mall or something by itself. Have you ever played another online game as developed as neopets? No. Because there are none. So you don't think it's worth fixing their broken economy? Not even adjusting the estimated values for things when they're out by thousands on thousands of neopoints? Upgrading their technologies at all? Making the site, which is aimed at children, easier to navigate? Selling more real world items? Making NC easier to get? I didn't see anyone suggest you be given an option to switch off customization either. They dang well should be making fantastic NP items! Unless they're aiming to alienate almost their entire user base, many of whom are fourteen and under and who cannot buy NC and are unlikely to have parents purchase it for them. This isn't a paid site and it never, ever will be. Especially not with Viacom/Nickelodeon running the show. I'm content to support them with my real world money. I spent $5 today, even. But they'll be shooting themselves in the feet if they stop making good NP items. They should be making NP items of the same quality as they always have and at the same rate, with NC items on top of that. Which seems to be what they've been doing, really, so moot point. Telling people not to complain about petty things in a thread about complaints is also incredibly mean spirited. If I owned it, those are the things I would do. And I did find something else to complain about. I found twelve other things to complain about. The "it's the best there is so shut up" method you've employed in that last line there is also very mean spirited and uncalled for. Next you'll be saying "if you don't think it's good enough then go make your own site"-- which is kind of the whole idea of this thread. What would you do with the site if it was yours. Don't drag everyone down like that, man. Not cool. With that out of the way, the restocking system and the Battledome definitely need updating, yeah. Don't know how I missed those. The restocking system especially has always been absolutely dreadful. My friend just had a brilliant idea! XD Every birthday of the site there would be a cake baking-decorating contest and the winner would be able to paint one pet Birthday Cake XD Birthday Cake painting! Birthday Fairy! More fairies. Glubglubglub. I'd totally make the Tooth Fairy have quests and the Grey Fairy. I love them X3 Yes to all of those! A cake baking/decorating contest would be way cool! Maybe not a birthday fairy though, that might be pushing it... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckyz Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'd also try and spend more money on more staff members. Neopets is severely understaffed- especially the Neoboards. (Does that place even have monitors? o.o) -Fix Customer Support Every game has customer support issues once it reaches a large player base, its hard to find people and then train them(I'm not 100% sure how it works but I'm sure they have to be close to wherever neopets is located). So you don't think it's worth fixing their broken economy? Not even adjusting the estimated values for things when they're out by thousands on thousands of neopoints? Upgrading their technologies at all? Making the site, which is aimed at children, easier to navigate? Selling more real world items? Making NC easier to get? I didn't see anyone suggest you be given an option to switch off customization either. They damn well should be making fantastic NP items! Unless they're aiming to alienate almost their entire user base, many of whom are fourteen and under and who cannot buy NC and are unlikely to have parents purchase it for them. This isn't a paid site and it never, ever will be. Especially not with Viacom/Nickelodeon running the show. I'm content to support them with my real world money. I spent $5 today, even. But they'll be shooting themselves in the feet if they stop making good NP items. They should be making NP items of the same quality as they always have and at the same rate, with NC items on top of that. Which seems to be what they've been doing, really, so moot point. I really wish I got a plush, I want a slorg(can you still get theese?) to go with my baneling and companion cube, but micro transactions are the way to go, look at Zynga. I actually missed your NC conversion part, I disagree with that and neopets being a kids site >.> Its kid friendly but the content it comes out with some time is definitely not. But you own that neopets, mines different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslines Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Oh dear, I'm kind of taking over this thread. Neopets gives me a lot of feelings, okay?! :whistle: I actually missed your NC conversion part, I disagree with that and neopets being a kids site >.> Its kid friendly but the content it comes out with some time is definitely not. Well, it is still officially a kids site. Hence the super strict forum/neomail codes, and having links to other Nickelodeon sites at the top. I'm not sure why though, because you're right that sometimes its content really isn't kid friendly, and it was originally a game for college students, and so much of it's user base is adult, and they could do such glorious things with it if it weren't... If I owned it I'd feel bad cutting out the younger users. It just wouldn't seem fair. Hmm, maybe split a little more of the site by sixteen and over/under than just the forums... Thinking on it a bit more, I think if you could convert NP into NC (and definitely not the other way around, ever) then maybe it would work better as some sort of middling currency. Like, you could buy some basic items, like foods for the habitarium and maybe a couple of backgrounds/cute clothes, but wouldn't be able to buy a lot of the stock. Like the monthly collectables, and the theme packs, and the useful items. I wonder how you'd implement that... But you own that neopets, mines different. Yes! :laughingsmiley: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeperetz Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 So you don't think it's worth fixing their broken economy? They are already attempting to do that. It isn't that easy with such a large user-controlled system Not even adjusting the estimated values for things when they're out by thousands on thousands of neopoints? Estimated values aren't meant to be the "prices"... it's the price they stock for in shops. Just like how rarities don't mean much after you get into the hundreds, it's merely an organization system Upgrading their technologies at all? They have tried doing that... sometimes it worked, sometimes it crashed people's computers :P Making the site, which is aimed at children, easier to navigate? Every site will be hard to navigate at first Selling more real world items? Making NC easier to get? That would lose them business which they need to sustain the site I didn't see anyone suggest you be given an option to switch off customization either. Unconversion=No customization They dang well should be making fantastic NP items! I meant wearables specifically... look at the customization spotlight winners for an example... Unless they're aiming to alienate almost their entire user base, many of whom are fourteen and under and who cannot buy NC and are unlikely to have parents purchase it for them. This isn't a paid site and it never, ever will be. Because of this, they need to strongly encourage people to support them through neocash if they intend on keeping it running Especially not with Viacom/Nickelodeon running the show. They've essentially taken Neopets off their priorities list I'm content to support them with my real world money. I spent $5 today, even. But they'll be shooting themselves in the feet if they stop making good NP items. They should be making NP items of the same quality as they always have and at the same rate, with NC items on top of that. Which seems to be what they've been doing, really, so moot point. Telling people not to complain about petty things in a thread about complaints is also incredibly mean spirited. Didn't mean to offend If I owned it, those are the things I would do. And I did find something else to complain about. I found twelve other things to complain about. The "it's the best there is so shut up" method you've employed in that last line there is also very mean spirited and uncalled for. Next you'll be saying "if you don't think it's good enough then go make your own site"-- which is kind of the whole idea of this thread. What would you do with the site if it was yours. Don't drag everyone down like that, man. Not cool. With that out of the way, the restocking system and the Battledome definitely need updating, yeah. Don't know how I missed those. The restocking system especially has always been absolutely dreadful. As you said, I was giving my opinion. Every game has customer support issues once it reaches a large player base, its hard to find people and then train them(I'm not 100% sure how it works but I'm sure they have to be close to wherever neopets is located). Neopet's customer support consists of a user waiting days to months for something even extremely petty to get an unhelpful automated response and then they have to repeat the proccess multiple times to maybe get what they are looking for :P This post has been edited by a member of staff (Spritzie) because of a violation of the forum rules. Please don't double post. If you would like to add something, use the 'Edit' button. Please check your user inbox to see if you have been contacted regarding this incident, then review our rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslines Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Gosh this is a bit hard to reply to, huh? They are already attempting to do that. It isn't that easy with such a large user-controlled system Then it is worth doing and not a stupid idea? I am glad to know that they're trying, but that doesn't Estimated values aren't meant to be the "prices"... it's the price they stock for in shops. Just like how rarities don't mean much after you get into the hundreds, it's merely an organization system It's still something they should fix, and which I would if I ran it. Having an item with an est value of 13,780 when you can get it for 5 is a problem. They have tried doing that... sometimes it worked, sometimes it crashed people's computers :P Doesn't make it any less worth while to keep trying til they get it. Which I understand is hard and not the priority it should be, but regardless. Every site will be hard to navigate at first But this isn't at first. Given how long this site has been running for, being hard to navigate is one of those thing which, personally, is pretty unforgivable. Unconversion=No customization It may just be that it is 9:30am and I have not slept, but I am not understanding what you mean by this. Could you give me a hand? I meant wearables specifically... look at the customization spotlight winners for an example... I still stand by my point. Even if they made them far less frequently and charged much more, they should still be making them for NP. Because of this, they need to strongly encourage people to support them through neocash if they intend on keeping it running They don't seem to be doing a very good job of this though. I still think merchandise is a better way to go. People are always more willing to pay real world money for things they can hold. They also might get some good results if they had something that said specifically that "we need this to keep running, so this is a donation that we're thanking you for with items". That seems to go well everywhere else. They've essentially taken Neopets off their priorities list Doesn't really matter until they sell it, really. Didn't mean to offend I'd hope not, but that was some pretty unpleasant wording, especially given the thread subject. But no harm. I think I snapped a bit, sorry if I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeperetz Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hehe it's like a triple post :P They are already attempting to do that. It isn't that easy with such a large user-controlled system Then it is worth doing and not a stupid idea? I am glad to know that they're trying, but that doesn't It isn't as simple as saying, "Economy... fix!" It's all supply and demand and right now supply is a lot more than demand :P Estimated values aren't meant to be the "prices"... it's the price they stock for in shops. Just like how rarities don't mean much after you get into the hundreds, it's merely an organization system It's still something they should fix, and which I would if I ran it. Having an item with an est value of 13,780 when you can get it for 5 is a problem. If prices were lowered in the shops (the estimated prices) then they would lower in the shops as well... if something is worth less than its estimated value, it means supply is greater than demand which means that, no matter what, it will always be lower than the estimated value. The only things higher are things that people "restock" (new, pretty backgrounds, morphing potions, etc.) Estimated value has nothing to do with anything They have tried doing that... sometimes it worked, sometimes it crashed people's computers :P Doesn't make it any less worth while to keep trying til they get it. Which I understand is hard and not the priority it should be, but regardless. They should just stop trying to make everything shiny and 3d :P Every site will be hard to navigate at first But this isn't at first. Given how long this site has been running for, being hard to navigate is one of those thing which, personally, is pretty unforgivable. I mean to the person... after using the site for a few days they will be used to it. It isn't that hard to navigate, everything is right at the top... Unconversion=No customization It may just be that it is 9:30am and I have not slept, but I am not understanding what you mean by this. Could you give me a hand? People want things to unconvert their neopets... unconversion=can hardly be customized=no business I meant wearables specifically... look at the customization spotlight winners for an example... I still stand by my point. Even if they made them far less frequently and charged much more, they should still be making them for NP. They do still make many nice wearables... they just aren't of the same animated, shiny quality as neocash items Because of this, they need to strongly encourage people to support them through neocash if they intend on keeping it running They don't seem to be doing a very good job of this though. I still think merchandise is a better way to go. People are always more willing to pay real world money for things they can hold. They also might get some good results if they had something that said specifically that "we need this to keep running, so this is a donation that we're thanking you for with items". That seems to go well everywhere else. But if they're playing neopets, I would think some nice clothes for their pet would appeal to them more than a neopets tshirt... they stopped with merchandise because it wasn't pulling in enough interest anymore They've essentially taken Neopets off their priorities list Doesn't really matter until they sell it, really. IF they sell it... the way things are going, it may just die Didn't mean to offend I'd hope not, but that was some pretty unpleasant wording, especially given the thread subject. But no harm. I think I snapped a bit, sorry if I did.\ No worries :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckyz Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It isn't as simple as saying, "Economy... fix!" It's all supply and demand and right now supply is a lot more than demand No they fix the economy by introducing NP sinks, whole supply and demand only affects the user prices. If TNT were to make an account and sell a SuAP for its actual price then the whole Supply and Demand might actually work. This game is so old that some of the 7year+ accounts are soo rich that a sink like the wheel of extravagance doesn't work them while bleeding the low millionaires/poor people dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeperetz Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 No they fix the economy by introducing NP sinks, whole supply and demand only affects the user prices. If TNT were to make an account and sell a SuAP for its actual price then the whole Supply and Demand might actually work. This game is so old that some of the 7year+ accounts are soo rich that a sink like the wheel of extravagance doesn't work them while bleeding the low millionaires/poor people dry. What are you talking about? xD By making NP sinks, they are attempting to make less supply to increase demand so that they can even things out a bit. SuAPs will never sell for the actual 2.5bil that monophyte asks for it because it was never that much to begin with... at most it is around 1.5bil which /is/ the actual price... there is low supply and high demand; therefore, the price is high. There are few accounts so rich that that happens... and those people barely even play anymore. Contrary to popular belief, 1bil is not super rich... there are few people that have that much pure but that's because everything is passed around in items now because it is far easier... everyone is trying to sell items so there is low demand, deflating everything which is what tnt is trying to do with the np sinks -----EDIT------ I see what you were saying now but it doesn't matter what TNT does... the users are the ones that play the game. TNT can release 50 SuAPs for 10np each... that doesn't mean that it's now worth 10np. The users (that's us) will inflate them back to the hundreds of millions instantly because that is what people will pay. The "actual" price of an item isn't what you want it to be so that you are able to afford it... it's what people are willing to pay for it, determined by supply and demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckyz Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I actually had an example... a draik egg sells in a shop for 100k but the value of it is 15mil only 100k is getting removed from the economy and explained how neopoints are being added every day and not enough is getting removed but you got the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeperetz Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I actually had an example... a draik egg sells in a shop for 100k but the value of it is 15mil only 100k is getting removed from the economy and explained how neopoints are being added every day and not enough is getting removed but you got the idea. That's because draiks are highly valued and rare Supply is less than demand so the price goes up. Even if draik eggs, in this example, sold for 100mil... 100k would still be taken out of the economy. That 100k dissapears forever. The 15mil they sell it for, however, is between users. Those nps are already in the economy. They destroy 100k and then trade the item for 15mil already inside of the economy. that's why shops don't un-sink neopoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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