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Oh, yes, how dare they give you added value for your money and force you to buy their food for your children. Wait, no. It's a choice and it's marketing. Doesn't look like I'm the first with these thoughts though - does anybody agree with the lawsuit?

This is different than us asking ourselves if we'd rather exist or not based on our enjoyment of our experiences - we know they'd be happy.

The 'one more word' was just so I could clear the word count - the unabashed utility thing means I'm impressed by your rationality.

Nice, Chu. I like unabashed utility. One more word.

I got pretty bored of Yooyuball, but I wanted the avatar. After that I have no intention of doing it any more - so repetitive. Maybe for the achievements, though...

I like to challenge that which was generally take for granted (the value of life) and figure out whether it is true, or why it is, etc. In Watchmen, Dr. Manhattan has his speech about how all of humanity could be wiped out and the universe wouldn't care. So really, what is the importance of life? That said, I'd prefer people not to die, but the creation of new life doesn't hold too much value for me.

How other people see someone has nothing to do with how I see them. Anybody who is convinced by your rating to dislike you without speaking you isn't really worth your time, are they?

I now understand the distinction. Thank you. I still am not convinced of the value of life, though. There is no utility in your argument - just beauty.

Man, I wish the Adam avatar would go down just a bit. Two million to go.

For a very long time (years?) nobody knew how to get the Chef Bonju avatar.

That is simply the nature of this section, CAV - debate. Don't take it personally that we do not share opinions.

I don't see how you're distinguishing life from existence given what you said about its lack of importance, and you still haven't explained why life is important.

Man, I don't even want to remember how much I sunk into getting that.

Cornflakes, I fail to understand why life is important. Please explain.

Is non-life important? Life is obviously unimportant, but at least it would be enjoyed. Where is the value in allowing them to exist forever?

The original poster said dying was not painful, and they were guaranteed happiness.

I would like to point out the nature of the news - they display rarities. They don't mention the hundreds of people who die in normal car crashes, or every baby born, because they're common. Something being on these news means it's news-worthy - it doesn't happen often.

To be honest, I don't see this as a dilemma at all. If they never live, they won't care if they exist. Obviously it is better to have happiness than infinite nothingness.

Hey, thanks for explaining the X thing. That was helpful.

That's an excellent point, Mireia. Kids aren't going to get hugely drunk drinking beer and lemonade.

I got the avatar from the wheel of mediocrity today. Only one wheel to go.

I think that's rather a fallacy - things do not live to be destroyed.

Got the Wheel of Mediocrity avatar. Hurray.

They're very nice, but the signature picture is marred by the clutter of the surroundings.

That makes sense, though I stand by never having seen or heard of it except in fiction or far-off court cases.