Advice on weapons/abilities?

[_snuffles]

Hi! I asked this on another board but I can't remember which one... so I'll ask the general TDN public :)

 

Do you guys have any 'go to' items that have helped with the skirmishes? I don't want to spend very much (less then 500k total, if possible), and the only really good items I have right now are Velms Healing Potion and Scroll of Freezing.

 

Also, I have the lens flare ability, and I'm level 50. Any other suggestions?

 

I appreciate any responses! :) Thank you!!

[jcpet]

To be honest, I don't think you really need to spend any money on the skirmishes because you can qualify for the avatars/site themes as long as you do 10 battles on any opponent.

 

BUT if you really want to upgrade some items, there are a few suggestions. I looked at your pet (_Azura_Homatu_, I'm assuming is your battle pet) and it seems like you have a lab rat with high HP, strength and low defense. So shields won't be of much use.

 

For constants at that budget, I suggest you either get Scroll of Knowledge (80-90k) which deals 11 icons, or Scroll of the Scholar (8-10k) which deals 10 icons.

I'd also suggest Downsize! (<10k) for defense. If you really want a shield, you can get a Leaf Shield (<40k), but you probably won't use it much.

You may choose to switch your freezer to the Randomly Firing Freeze Ray (~250k). 50% chance of freezing, but it won't ever break unlike the Scroll of Freezing.

I think the Velms Healing Potion will do fine for you at 446 HP. Unless you want to get the Rejuvenating Jar of Brains (275k), which heals 60 HP, or spend 150k on the Greater Healing Scroll, which heals 50 HP.

 

 

Also, get Level 25 Faerie ability An Icicle for an extra 6 icons per turn. You can also get Level 5 ability Shade for some extra defense.

[Lamppost]

I suggest you take a look at the Battlepedia's Basic Weapon Sets guide. All of those weapons are fairly good for their price, and you could choose almost any of them. Like jcpet said, you won't get much use out of shields because your pet has low defense. I have a pet like that, too, and I pretty much stopped using shields altogether. Lab rats usually have enough HP to handle that. (Based on your pet's stats, I assume she is a lab rat.) If you're planning to keep zapping your pet, you should definitely hang on to your Velms Healing Potion. For lab rats who tend to have high HP, it's usually much more economical than the typical healers. Once your HP climbs past 500, you'll be getting more HP back from Velms than from a Greater Healing Scroll.

 

Your battle pet has 238 strength, which means her strength boost is 4.5. If you were to get two of Scroll of Knowledge, you could use it with Lens Flare and deal (11 icons + 11 icons) x 4.5 boost = 99 damage points. That's enough to take out the second-wave opponents (Back Alley Bruiser, Roadside Bandit, Hedgewitch, Charming Subversive, Smug Philosopher, and Zombie Hooligan) on Mighty or the third-wave opponents (Midnight Smuggler, Nefarious Plotter, Licensed Conjurer, Brutal Mercenary, Stalwart Explorer, and Ghostly Knight) on Average in just one turn. You'll help your team out more if you can fight stronger opponents, though. You could invest in weapons that deal more icons in damage or you could increase your strength by zapping (which it sounds like you'll probably continue to do). To get any better attack weapons than the Scroll of Knowledge, you're going to have to spend quite a bit more NP - probably over 1m.

 

You can also take a look at the Obelisk War Challenger Guide for weapon and ability suggestions for each level of opponents, as well as weapon suggestions for specific opponents.

[_snuffles]

Wow, what great responses! Thank you so much!!

 

She used to be my lab rat, but then she turned into a Lutari and I got more interested in battling and didn't want to risk decreasing her level to 1.. :P

 

I really appreciate the help! I will definitely be upgrading, and thanks for the 10 battles tip--did not know that! :)

[Lamppost]

Just FYI, after your pet passes a certain level (I think it's 20) the lab ray won't reset its level to 1 again. You might still not want to zap because of her species, but you should know in case you want to make a more informed decision.

 

If you're not planning to continue zapping, you might be better off with Greater Healing Scroll or Rejuvenating Jar of Brains instead of your Velms Healing Potion, since they'll give you a few more HP.

 

If you are planning to continue to be interested in battling and not planning to zap, I strongly recommend you find another way to train your pet. Training is one of the most economical ways to improve your battling - more than buying stronger weapons. A pet with a strength boost of 15 and a Scarab Ring can do more damage than a pet with a strength boost of 2 and a Super Attack Pea. Plus, if you increase your level to 200 to make your pet trainable, you can get the faerie ability Warlocks Rage, which works just like Lens Flare. Then you can have two free shots at any opponent.

[_snuffles]

Just FYI, after your pet passes a certain level (I think it's 20) the lab ray won't reset its level to 1 again. You might still not want to zap because of her species, but you should know in case you want to make a more informed decision.

 

If you're not planning to continue zapping, you might be better off with Greater Healing Scroll or Rejuvenating Jar of Brains instead of your Velms Healing Potion, since they'll give you a few more HP.

 

If you are planning to continue to be interested in battling and not planning to zap, I strongly recommend you find another way to train your pet. Training is one of the most economical ways to improve your battling - more than buying stronger weapons. A pet with a strength boost of 15 and a Scarab Ring can do more damage than a pet with a strength boost of 2 and a Super Attack Pea. Plus, if you increase your level to 200 to make your pet trainable, you can get the faerie ability Warlocks Rage, which works just like Lens Flare. Then you can have two free shots at any opponent.

I did not know that about the Lab Ray ! Wow, thanks! ^^;

 

How do you get strength boosts? Obviously I'm not very seasoned at this BD thing >.>;

[Lamppost]

Sorry, I didn't realize you didn't know!

 

Your strength boost is determined by your pet's strength. Attack damage is calculated by taking the number of icons your weapons attack with and multiplying it by your strength boost. For example, your pet has 240 strength, which falls into the 200-249 range. Pets with strength in this range have a strength boost of 4.5. If you attack with a weapon that deals 6 icons of damage, you will do 6 icons x 4.5 boost = 27 damage. If a pet has 600-649 strength (like my pet), she'll have a strength boost of 13, and if she uses that same 6-icon weapon, she'll inflict 6 icons x 13 boost = 78 damage. Big difference, right?

 

It works similarly with shields. Your pet's defense determines your defense boost, and the scales are the same as the strength boost. The amount of damage you take is calculated by icon, and it uses this formula:

Number of attack icons received of that type x opponent's strength boost – Number of defense icons you defend of that type x your defense boost

Your pet's defense is 50, so your defense boost falls into the 35-55 range, which means you have a defense boost of 1.5. Let's say your opponent has a strength boost of 4.5 and attacks you with a Rainbow Scroll, while you defend with a Leaf Shield. Your opponent will inflict 3 icons x 4.5 = 13.5 damage of water, and you'll block 5 icons x 1.5 boost = 7.5 damage. Thus, you'll still take 6 damage from the water, even though your weapon defends more icons of that type than their weapon attacks with. That's why jcpet said you won't get much use out of shields. Pets with low defense boosts don't benefit from them much.

 

This is why I suggested training. If you can increase your strength to 250, your boost will go up to 5.5, and if you can increase your defense to 55, your boost will increase to 2. Lab rats are a pain to train because you have to focus on level so much, but in the end it's usually worth it. If you don't want to spend the time making your pet trainable or you calculate that it's too much of an expense, you can also train with items. Altador Strength Potion and Armoured Negg are good options. For you, training your pet's level to be trainable would cost about 3 million NP (I did the calculations the other day, assuming codestones average 5k NP), which seems like a lot but you could view as an investment.

 

If you'd like to learn more, I suggest you check out a few articles on the Battlepedia. You might be specifically interested in Strength and Defense Boosts, which provides a chart of the boosts, and the Introduction to the Battledome, which gives a more in-depth explanation for how damage is calculated.

[_snuffles]

That's wonderful! Thanks for explaining it. This will definitely help me out a lot! :)

[Pookies]

I'm "favoriting" this page lol so helpful!!

I just got into battledome, so I'm still learning about how to train pets, which items, etc.

[Neuroartsy]

What are the next step up weapons to use? I have the Scroll of Knowledge and the Greater Healing Scroll. What are the next step up from those two?

[Lamppost]

What are the next step up weapons to use? I have the Scroll of Knowledge and the Greater Healing Scroll. What are the next step up from those two?

You may want to check out the Basic Weapon Sets guide at the Battlepedia for suggestions. Also, if you post Battledome-specific questions in the Battledome & Battlepedia Chat subforum on here, you'll likely get a faster response. Most questions are answered within 24 hours by someone over there.

[rntracy1]

With the ability "throw pillows", it gets annoying when the opponents use it 2 rounds in a row. My level isn't high enough yet (because I don't want to spend more on training other abilities yet) but when I am able to use that ability, will I be able to use it 2 rounds in a row too? My hunch is no.

[Clumsy rockyroad1]

With the ability "throw pillows", it gets annoying when the opponents use it 2 rounds in a row. My level isn't high enough yet (because I don't want to spend more on training other abilities yet) but when I am able to use that ability, will I be able to use it 2 rounds in a row too? My hunch is no.

 

No, you can't. However, 1P challengers can spam abilities to their liking, TNT has stated this multiple times in the editorial.

[rntracy1]

 

No, you can't. However, 1P challengers can spam abilities to their liking, TNT has stated this multiple times in the editorial.

Sorry but what do you mean by "spam abilities" to your liking? Thanks for the response. As I thought, I wouldn't be able to use it multiple times and it isn't fair that they are able to. How are we supposed to defeat them when we are unable to fight for two rounds in a row and they are doing 38 damage each round?? I am only 78 HP at this time. And if I were higher, they would be doing MORE damage anyway, so I can't win. It seems the higher you get the more unfair/one sided the battles become.

[Clumsy rockyroad1]

Sorry but what do you mean by "spam abilities" to your liking? Thanks for the response. As I thought, I wouldn't be able to use it multiple times and it isn't fair that they are able to. How are we supposed to defeat them when we are unable to fight for two rounds in a row and they are doing 38 damage each round?? I am only 78 HP at this time. And if I were higher, they would be doing MORE damage anyway, so I can't win. It seems the higher you get the more unfair/one sided the battles become.

 

Yes, but unfortunately it is how TNT set it up, Only the 4th/5th wave (the 2 strongest groups of challengers) have lens flare/warlocks rage I think. You'd have to get your HP/str/def up to survive. :(