Ellie_Penguin Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Okay guys, read this and learn (for those who kept bashing TNT and Neopets about the talisman) TNT, I approved of the NC Mall since it was released, but the recent addition of the winged talisman (which improves game-play during Shenkuu River Rush) seems to go against anything you have ever said regarding Neopets and money. For $4 USD players can buy an item which makes it easier for them to play a game that gives Neopoints and trophies?? What about the players that can't purchase from the mall? Are they doomed to never be able to have a trophy from River Rush just because they don't live in the US or Canada and people with less talent can just buy items to make the game easier? ~karlsomewhat14 To be honest, it ended up in the Mall due to a communication breakdown amongst the staff. The item was nominated to be placed in the Mall, but it was sort of in limbo. Everyone had differing opinions on it and we were discussing those opinions, but it ended up being approved to go up anyway. Basically, we fudged a bit. As for the differing opinions... well, each side had valid points. You have to be good at the game in the first place or the item does no good for you. Essentially, it doesn't make a very poor player into a superstar, trophy-winner overnight. Also, users who are great at the game will already be earning their 1,000 NP maximum each go anyway and can't earn any more, so it doesn't make anyone "rich" from using it. Those users who can't earn 1,000 NP in the game without the talisman could be spending the same time playing a different game they're better at, so all the talisman did was let them earn the NP on a game they like more. Obviously, though, the other folks at the table worried about the affect on trophy spots. Trophies earn Neopoints, and they earn prestige, which is part of the game as well. (Unlike with Mall wearables, you can't tell who earned the trophy on their own or who earned it with the help of the Winged Talisman, though, interestingly, the same can be said for the other Shenkuu River Rush game-play items you can purchase for Neopoints.) Anyway, this is why we were in debates and the item shouldn't have gone up just yet. But it did go up, so we gauged your reactions, watched high score lists, monitored the Neopoints won, etc. (things we always do when we launch something new). We know "functional" items would sell very well, and one of the reasons the Mall exists is to earn revenue, but we don't want anyone to be able to buy their way through the game of Neopets. So, we're trying our best to come up with items that are useful but don't give anyone a huge advantage - the perfect balance. We can think about these things until our brains implode and not know what exactly will happen with certain items, so this was a very informative accident. We'll keep trying more items, and some of them won't work, but the only way for us to know is to test them. So, in the future, you'll see more and different types of items in the Mall. Feel free to send us your feedback, or even your own item ideas. (By the way, thanks to the folks who sent in feedback and participated in boards that discussed the item rationally and logically - those who understood both sides but still expressed their concerns with the item. It's our decision, but we *do* actually listen, despite what some think. Complaints without valid reasoning or logic do nothing to help us see your points!) In the end, we decided to take the talisman down come Tuesday when we had the next Mall update. It should be noted that no one who has earned a trophy since it sold has purchased the talisman. We'll continue to watch it since those who purchased the item paid for it and are able to keep it until it expires, but so far, it has not been detrimental to the high score list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Jesus Christ People. Its only a game. Nothing is real. Who cares if people get more neopoints then you. For all you know the could be doing a give away or something with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome_Paul Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 That what everyone thought when Bashing, It will give an unfair advantage. Like TNT said, it won't make you a star, you have to be good to begin with. (and people with the talisman haven't even won a trophy yet) Though it won't be lost, they most likely place it in a easy shop to find so some people won't complain anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Luna Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I haven't even tried the game yet- So what's the big fuss? (yes I know about the taliisman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie_Penguin Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 It also proves TNTs' intentions were good from the beginning. I hope people understand now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Nope because most neopians want to have it there way. Do people who already have the talisman loose it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Luna Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I don't think so- did TNT say otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie_Penguin Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 I'm guessing the item won't exist anymore. And if those people indeed keep it, the talisman won't do anything anymore. It'd be worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 i dont know the NC Mall agreement but the TNT should refund there money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Luna Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 It'll probably get turned into a retired item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xepha Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Yeah, I read this in the editorial... didn't know about the talisman AND the game won't load for me anyway. So I think we could say that I don't really care! XD Anyway, from what I understand in their answer, they are saying that they learn from their mistakes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonKnight Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I do care , and I am very happy it's out! though this item rocks , and it should be at least buyable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDan Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Well, I'll admit that I will not fork up the cash for the NC Mall (personally I hate it), but I feel that if items that DO SOMETHING (like, clothes don't really DO anything for you in Neopets) are in the NC Mall, there needs to be a Neopoint alternative. Like, you could pay $4 NeoCash OR 4oo,ooo NP, that would be better. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruto Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 It was released because of miscommunication. The talisman has been taken out of the mall, and the people who already have it will lose it eventually anyway. I'm personally sick of everyone complaining about something that gives no one an advantage and is purely optional. Just ignore the NC Mall and find something else to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonKnight Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 YOU maybe don't care because of non-interest in the game . but I'm sure you'd react totally differently if lets say... the NC mall avatar would be available only if you buy something . or... something else you are interested in . it's not really OPTIONAl it's something that gives advatage in a game , TNT knew they are wrong , and cleared their mistake . if they did that , they know why everyone were complaining , and you don't have to be a fan of the game to complain . well at least it's over... I hope they'll release it as a normal item one day ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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