jvance08 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hey guys, another question for all you BD experts: Stats Level: 82 HP: 207 Attack: 125 Defence: 27 Set Constants: Kelpbeards Trident, Ylanas Blaster Dual Duties: Rusty Pitchfork, Hanso Charisma Charm Bomb: Ghostkerbomb Freezer: Magical Marbles of Mystery Healer: Greater Healing Scroll Blocker: Downsize! I have about 11mil to spend. Would I be better off: Buying a Sword of Reif Buying 15 Altador Strength Potions to get to the 200 strength boost Saving a little more for a Bag of Healing Dust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltom Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Buy the Altador Strength Potions,, from me. Hmmmm, a subtle hint of bias there. Actually, although I do hope to unload 15 asp soon, the bubbling fungus is likely cheaper to train. P.S. What about buying some Armoured Neggs (which I don't have any to sell), to get your defense up to 85. I know you are not wasting your time with shields, but you do carry the Rusty Pitchfork for no apparent reason. Conversely, you could only fight the current opponents that deal any significant darkness, which I don't recall anyone attacking with significant darkness in this round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome Back Apathy Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 You didn't say how many hp your pet has. If you're going to get a bag of healing dust, it's important to know that. If your pet has less than 150 hp, for example, it's a definite no to bag of healing dust because you'll only heal 75. It also is important to know because it would be cheaper--slower, but cheaper--to train...unless your pet has so many hp that you can't. Which is my guess based on the defense--lab rat? Anyway, I guess I would recommend getting the strength up rather than buying a new weapon. Your strength will increase the power of your ghostkerbomb, too, and that first hit can be the most important. You won't even use Ylanas Blaster in your most powerful hit anyway--you'll use the ghostkerbomb + kelpbeard's trident. And KBT has the same number of icons as an anagram sword. Doing the math: Suppose you use NOTHING but your Ylana's Blaster or your anagram sword. Ylana's blaster x 4.5 multiplier = 50 icons Anagram sword x 3 multiplier = 54 icons You're only 4 behind when you use Ylana's Blaster. Now factor in that your KBT will also get a multiplier: 18 x 3 = 54 18 x 4.5 = 81 SO, if you train up to 200, you'll be doing 50 + 81 = 131 damage in one turn of Ylana's Blaster + KBT. If you instead get an anagram sword and DON'T train, you'll only do 108 damage. And that's not even factoring in your Ghostkerbomb. DOOOO EEEEET. Lamppost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance08 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 My pet has 207 HP. That is a pretty convincing argument for the ASPs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamppost Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 My pet has 207 HP. That is a pretty convincing argument for the ASPs...Math doesn't lie! I completely agree with Yttrium. 1. Spending 11m on an anagram sword will let you do (18 icons + 18 icons) * 3 boost = 108 damage when you use your sword and KBT. 2. Spending 11m on ASPs will get you 22 ASPs. (This assumes that ASPs are going for 500k. They might be less now.) That'll give you 110 extra strength points, putting your strength at 235. You'll do (18 icons + 12.5 icons) * 4.5 boost = 137.25 damage. 3. Spending 11m on Bubbling Fungus Potions will get you 100 Bubbling Fungus Potions. Assuming they each give you 1.7 strength points, which they do on average, you'll gain 170 strength points, putting your strength at 295. You'll do (18 icons + 12.5 icons) * 5.5 boost = 167.75. If you can spring for it to get the extra 5 strength points and get to 300, you'll do 198.25 damage. General Technology 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome Back Apathy Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 For some reason, I can't quote anything right now. Ah, well. "(This assumes that ASPs are going for 500k. They might be less now.)" In the trading post, they're mostly 450k. BUT if you go to the auctions, they're cheaper. Lamppost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltom Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I tried a few days ago, could not get 425k for one of mine. If bubbling fungus does 1.5 levels on average, and bubbling fungus is going for 110, than your average cost/hp is 73k/np. At 400k np than ASP is 80k/np. Some say that bubbling do 1.7 on average, since I don't know the SD of the events than an average does not a truly informed decision, but numbers do point towards the bubbling fungus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Technology Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I agree with the others completely. Buying strength increasers would benefit you more. I do suggest you think about which ones though.... There's .... Altador Strength Potion (+5 constantly for 400-500k) Strength Serum (increases your strength by 1-4 points, for 120k, can also be restocked) Bubbling Fungus (chance to do either +1 to 5 strength points, or -1 to -5 strength points. Better used in bulk. Now selling for around 100-150k, I think it can be buyable. And can also be restocked) Essence of Drackonack (can increase your pet's strength by 1, 2 or nothing. Easily buyable and can also be restocked) Jar of Forest Earth (chance to do 0-10 strength increase. Low chance, I think. Buyable and can also be restocked.) I'd definitely suggest that you consider the other four strength increasers (maybe Bubbling Fungus would work best for you, as the others have suggested.) I'd definitely suggest you try restocking the last four items. You could save a ton of money and you could up your strength to ULTIMATE proportions :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltom Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Buying a Fortune Cookie isn't a bad idea either. I've spent $5 and easily gotten my money's worth. Plus, and what are the chances, I hit the blinking tube and got free 150 so I could buy one more. I don't even mind the air faerie, as I do plan to eventually get the heavy robe of thievery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance08 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thanks for all your input guys. I bought 15 ASPs for 380k each to reach the 200 boost. I think I'm going to call it quits on spending for now and just hope that I can make it through this next wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltom Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 *Sigh* my investment in ASPs is never going to pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamppost Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm surprised they keep decreasing in price, but as someone who's still looking to buy, I'm in favor of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltom Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 While ASP are a cheap dependable way to get five strength points quick, the decrease in the cost of red codestones has to be putting downward pressure on them. Added to that, that bubbling fungus are being consistently restocked and at a rather reasonable price. I would suspect the only reason they are being kept inflated at all is that people training at the 6-8 regular codestone level find it, while not cheaper, more palatable to spend the kind of money to train by potion. The ASP might still be palatable to those that train quickly, ie the cheaters with infinite amounts of NP, but for the rest of us it does not seem like a good deal. I bought this horde right after they were released, when they were newly issued prizes. I thought I'd eventually train to the point where they'd be economical to use, and they certainly are not making any more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynohawk Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 What a waste if you spend it on ASP 0_o you can get to 200 attack from 125 in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clumsy rockyroad1 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I agree with the others completely. Buying strength increasers would benefit you more. I do suggest you think about which ones though.... There's .... Altador Strength Potion (+5 constantly for 400-500k) Strength Serum (increases your strength by 1-4 points, for 120k, can also be restocked) Bubbling Fungus (chance to do either +1 to 5 strength points, or -1 to -5 strength points. Better used in bulk. Now selling for around 100-150k, I think it can be buyable. And can also be restocked) Essence of Drackonack (can increase your pet's strength by 1, 2 or nothing. Easily buyable and can also be restocked) Jar of Forest Earth (chance to do 0-10 strength increase. Low chance, I think. Buyable and can also be restocked.) I'd definitely suggest that you consider the other four strength increasers (maybe Bubbling Fungus would work best for you, as the others have suggested.) I'd definitely suggest you try restocking the last four items. You could save a ton of money and you could up your strength to ULTIMATE proportions :) I just used 2 Bubbling Fungus and got +6 Strength! I guess I'm just lucky. I bought them as I think I can't reach the 125 boost in 6 days. But now I can. :) Lamppost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance08 Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 What a waste if you spend it on ASP 0_o you can get to 200 attack from 125 in no time. And how could I possibly do that before the war ends? My pet isn't trainable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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