Revenge Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well, I'm gonna hit the hay. Gotta try to sleep this pain off. Tomorrow, kays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Meh. Oh well. I tend to make friends who understand computers. So I'm used to being slightly lost. :P Alright, talk to ya tomorrow, Revenge! EDIT: Mrrf. This headache is really bugging me. I think I'm gonna go for a while. Or lurk or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 1) Headaches suck. <_< 2) I'll try to answer any computer questions fielded, but I'll probably confuse everybody. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 1. Agreed. 2. Meaning you'd definitely confuse me. Computer-type stuff goes right over my head. To borrow Will's diagram: <---- words O <--- my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 :laughingsmiley: Best. Diagram. Ever! :laughingsmiley: Maybe we should explain computer stuff in terms of diagrams like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Will used it a long time ago to diagram his confusion when I made an exceedingly random post. I thought it applied quite nicely. And yes, that would be extremely helpful. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well, presently the discussion is concerning storage space on a computer. I'm not sure how to put that in diagram form, but think of cramming stuff into a box. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Okay! I have great experience with cramming stuff into boxes. :graduated: But now I want a diagram for it. *thinks* |stuff...stu| |ff...stuff...| <------- Diagram of storage space |stuff.stuff| Eh, it's a little rough. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well, that pretty much explains it. :P There's a limit to how much can be crammed into said box, and the discussion is concerning something that exceeds that limit. I have no idea what that something is though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 So GB represents the size of the stuff being crammed into said box, or how much space is in said box? And it's a music video. I picked that much up. Actually, you'd probably be pretty amused by one of Laura's posts on the previous page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I did read that page, and yes, I found that amusing. :P I didn't quite catch on to the music video thing though... And you're pretty much right about GB, although I'm going to be all technical here and recommend the use of GiB to avoid confusion. My diagram-augmented explanation follows. Computers store information in terms of 0 and 1. So an individual 0 or 1 is known as a bit. * <----- bit A sequence of 0s and 1s can be used to express information. For example, a single character (like a or 1) is usually represented by a series of 8 bits. This is known as a byte. ******** <----- byte Why 8? Because computers think in powers of 2 (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc.) - their number system only has the two digits 0 and 1 after all. Now, most chunks of information we store on computers are a lot larger than 1 byte. So we use the prefixes conveniently provided by our standard units system to describe larger quantities of information. For example, a kilobyte (kB) is 1000 bytes. ******** X1,000 <----- kilobyte (kB) There's a 'but' here: remember that computers think in powers of 2. 1000 is not a power of 2! So computers don't actually use kilobytes. The closest thing to a kilobyte that a computer will use is a chunk of 1,024 bytes (2^10 bytes) - this is known as a kibibyte (KiB). Well technically it's a kilobinary byte, but that's typing out way too many bytes. :P ******** X1,024 <----- kibibyte (KiB) And from there, it just goes up the scale. A megabyte (MB) is 1,000,000 bytes (or 1,000 kilobytes). A mebibyte (MiB) is 1,048,576 bytes (2^20 bytes, or 1,024 kibibytes). ******** X1,000,000 <----- megabyte (MB) ******** X1,048,576 <----- mebibyte (MiB) A gigabyte (GB) is 1,000,000,000 bytes (or 1,000 megabytes). A gibibyte (GiB) is 1,073,741,824 bytes (2^30 bytes, or 1,024 mebibytes). ******** X1,000,000,000 <----- gigabyte (GB) ******** X1,073,741,824 <----- gibibyte (GiB) And so on, and so forth. Practically, the difference between kB & KiB, MB & MiB, or GB & GiB isn't large enough to worry about. But there's really no reason to use kB, MB or GB, so it's generally best to stick with the technically correct KiB, MiB and GiB to avoid confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 The diagrams! They make sense! The naming system makes sense too. Nice and metric. :graduated: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane for Wax Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 it is time for me to go sleepies now. Lots of booze... but now I'm getting blood in my alcohol system :( 1000th post! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 That sounds bad. And yay! You're half of an FM! Though you're already a staffer so it doesn't really matter. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Congratulations on point five FM-ness Kat! :P The following link is to an alternative explanation of storage unit sizes: http://xkcd.com/394/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Ahaha, xkcd! I love xkcd! And now I understand the joke behind that. :graduated: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruto Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I love xkcd too! :D This one is one of my favorites. This one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Aww, the top one is sweet! Odd, but sweet. And I imagine the other one could actually work. XP Morgan, tell me to go to sleep! It's 4 AM here. Ah need sleep. @_@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruto Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Yeah, I like romance on occasions, like relationships mixed in with action and humor, but not romance all the time. Go to sleep, livvy! Because it's only 3 AM here and I'm going to bed. @_@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 xkcd has brought me one step closer to completing my meaningless little existence. :yes: This is my personal favourite. And Livvy: sleep. :angry: *unchains* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruto Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 XDXD I've never seen that one before. That's hilarious. I think this one is my all-time favorite. I seriously need to get to bed now. T_T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 That's definitely my favorite too, RIG! Mostly because I've discovered that it's true. Alright, alright, I shall go to sleep. Good night, all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 xD I have to do that someday. I actually have an RSS feed of all my favourite xkcds somewhere... *starts digging* Edit: Ninja-ed. Good night! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΩCCΩ Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I go to sleep and I find out that you posted more than 10 pages XD. Congrats Revenge on reaching FM-dom, I wish I was there though XD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 300 posts or so isn't that far CC. ;) Just post when you have something to say, and you'll get there in no time. And here's another favourite xkcd of mine (mild language warning). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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