Sexism: What do you find sexist?

[Rebecca~]

Okay, it kinda feels like arguing semantics. If you talk to the average everyday person and ask them how they'd define sexism, they'd probably say something along the lines of "inequality and discriminate because of sex or gender." Plain and simple. I am just now getting into feminism and I'm still learning and reading up on feminist theory and trying to figure out where I stand in all of this, so I'm not claiming to be an expert at all. However, it bothered me that you instantly felt the need to explain that it apparently isn't sexism if it's against men. That sits wrong with me. And it seemed to me like you were kinda hand-waving it as if it isn't as important as "actual sexism". That is what I read from it, not saying that that is what you intended.

 

Again, I am nowhere near being an expert. I am not attacking you. That just bothered me and I felt the need to point it out.

Nah, I totally get that. I thought the same when I was first getting into feminism. But I've read a lot over the past number of years, and I've taken a woman's studies course or two, and I have come to realise that it is important to distinguish between discrimination from a disenfranchised person towards someone that is enfranchised in society, and racism or sexism.

The power makes SUCH a huge difference. I'm not saying that prejudice or discrimination is fine when it comes from women or people of colour- no, it's always bad. But I completely understand when women and people of colour (and hell, queer people, disabled people, etc-- ANY minority group) feels completely distrustful of their oppressors, since they never know when the next blow will come from, or from whom.

Enfranchised people are able to have the privilege of an easier life in many respects- as I have mentioned, most men never worry when they're walking down the street if they're going to get raped today. I ALWAYS do. I have never been raped. I have never almost been raped. I am aware that a quarter of my sisters have been though, and I am very aware that I could easily become one of that 25%. Men's privilege is laughing at women for being afraid that they're going to get raped. It's also being a comedian that can tell a heckler that it would be hilarious if she was gang-raped, and not have any concequences. If a female comedian were to tell a male heckler that it would be sooooo funny if some people came in and beat him almost to death, people would be furious. It would probably be considered incitiing violence. But because this actual incident involved someone thinking that gang rape is hilarious, there was no problem with it.

 

 

You can see this with violence against women as well. As far as I'm aware, police can't do a thing about emotional abuse to someone's girlfriend or wife. Often, rape inside of relationships- unless it is extremely violent- isn't taken seriously at all.

Stalkers too- they're rarely taken seriously. From what I remember, you can't get a restraining order until there has been a threat of violence. So, you just have to deal with some creepy guy watching you from outside your house and following you around until he HURTS you. How messed up is that?

 

 

The sexism that women experience is far more damaging and far reaching than the discrimination that men occasionally experience. I'm sorry for the men whom do experience discrimination, since that just isn't cool, but I do feel the need to say that it's not the same as sexism. It's not the same as having prejudices laced throughout your whole life, institutionalised and ingrained in your society. It's not the same as growing up being told that so much of what you are is inferior to being male ("you throw like a girl", 'boys' colours and toys being unisex, whereas a boy wearing a dress or pink is horrible and needs to be corrected instantly, stuff like that).

 

This kind of turned into a jumbled mess, but it's something I feel really strongly about, so I just kept blathering on, haha. If you're interested though, I have lots of online blogs that are run by feminists that I can recommend to you for reading. :)

[Bubbleline]

Tosh did get backlash. Perhaps not as much as we think he should be getting but I've been seeing a ton of hate for him on sites like Tumblr. And yes, it's darn hard to get anything done unless something horrid has already happened. When I first moved down here I was stalked by a guy that even got to know exactly when I'd be getting off of my bus. I didn't even know my bus schedule! But when he tried to lure me into his house, we reported him to the police and they told me that he didn't actually touch me so apparently they expected me to come back when I was already dead in a corn field. It should be noted that this guy had been reported on many times before, usually going after young girls and generally being the nosy neighborhood creep. But anywho, as for the feminist blogs, I'd be open to suggestions. I was recently introduced to Tiger Beatdown and Shapely Prose.

[Rebecca~]

Tosh did get backlash. Perhaps not as much as we think he should be getting but I've been seeing a ton of hate for him on sites like Tumblr. And yes, it's darn hard to get anything done unless something horrid has already happened. When I first moved down here I was stalked by a guy that even got to know exactly when I'd be getting off of my bus. I didn't even know my bus schedule! But when he tried to lure me into his house, we reported him to the police and they told me that he didn't actually touch me so apparently they expected me to come back when I was already dead in a corn field. It should be noted that this guy had been reported on many times before, usually going after young girls and generally being the nosy neighborhood creep. But anywho, as for the feminist blogs, I'd be open to suggestions. I was recently introduced to Tiger Beatdown and Shapely Prose.

Yeah, he got some- but not enough. I was expecting the backlash that Rush Limbaugh got, but it doesn't seem to have gotten even close. :( And I'm sorry about your stalking, that is a terrible thing to have happen to you. D:

 

Oh, I love Tiger Beatdown. :)

Some of my favourites are:

Shakesville. Their Feminism 101 section deserves a read-through. It's a collection of posts from the last six years or so on a variety of topics. Lots and lots and lots of reading, but they're all awesome. The main writer for the site is absolutely incredible. There is a lot of American politics, talk about current events, and pictures of cute animals being cute, as well as blog-arounds, so people can comment with blog posts from other sites that are awesome (good way to find new blogs to follow too!)

Hoyden About Town. An Austrialian blog, so a lot of the politics aren't stuff I'm familiar with, but it's good to keep up anyway. Just a nice collection of stuff from different areas of life by a bunch of different authors.

Rage Against the Man-chine. They have an amazing series on porn that I highly recommend. She hasn't updated in quite a while, but the archives is worth going through.

I Blame the Patriarchy. A fantastic blog, but it is meant for people that aren't necessarily new to feminism. Twisty is a fab writer though, so it is worth checking out. She does reviews of movies, that I especially like. I don't always agree, but I can definitely see her points, and I appreciate the exercise of thinking about it more, and working out why I do/don't agree. :)

The Hathor Legacy.Quality posts! :D

[Bubbleline]

Wow, I will definitely check those out. Though, as soon as I clicked on the link for Rage against the Man-chine, I saw an article title that made me chuckle. Reminded me of a blog I like called The Pervocracy. It talks about feminism and consent culture and it mocks Cosmopolitan magazine which is a good enough reason alone to read it. :P

[Rebecca~]

Wow, I will definitely check those out. Though, as soon as I clicked on the link for Rage against the Man-chine, I saw an article title that made me chuckle. Reminded me of a blog I like called The Pervocracy. It talks about feminism and consent culture and it mocks Cosmopolitan magazine which is a good enough reason alone to read it. :P

LOL! It definitely sounds like it's worth a read! I love when people talk about consent culture- it's creepy how little people care about aspects of it. Urgh.

[passiflora]

I don't agree with the airline's policy because I don't really see a risk present, but even if they did have it, there's much more discreet ways to go about it. For example, parents could have the ability to check a box that says the ticket is for an unaccompanied minor when buying the ticket, and then special seats could be arranged.

 

Enfranchised people are able to have the privilege of an easier life in many respects- as I have mentioned, most men never worry when they're walking down the street if they're going to get raped today.

On the same note, couldn't you make an argument along the lines of men having to worry about being ostracized if they're abused?

 

It's also being a comedian that can tell a heckler that it would be hilarious if she was gang-raped, and not have any concequences. If a female comedian were to tell a male heckler that it would be sooooo funny if some people came in and beat him almost to death, people would be furious.

Not if she was already notorious for that sort of crude humour. I hate to give leeway to someone just because of who they are, but what was the heckler expecting? It's Daniel Tosh. If she didn't like his humour I don't know why she was at the show in the first place. He did end up apologizing, and I've also read that the whole situation didn't actually happen quite as the lady described.

 

You can see this with violence against women as well. As far as I'm aware, police can't do a thing about emotional abuse to someone's girlfriend or wife. Often, rape inside of relationships- unless it is extremely violent- isn't taken seriously at all.

Stalkers too- they're rarely taken seriously. From what I remember, you can't get a restraining order until there has been a threat of violence. So, you just have to deal with some creepy guy watching you from outside your house and following you around until he HURTS you. How messed up is that?

I think all of these would likely be applied to violence/rape/stalking against men too, so it's a two-way street.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm mainly playing devil's advocate here - I agree that sexism against women is more far-reaching. I'm just reluctant to say any more than that because 1) I don't want to undermine the discrimination that males do experience, and 2) there's a growing hostility towards feminism that I worry about encouraging. In particular, it's absolutely the most annoying thing in the world when men think that feminism is no longer relevant or that it advocates for female supremacy rather than equality, and then go on to make ridiculous arguments about double standards they think are unfair (e.g. "Women can hit men, why can't men hit women?!?!!").

 

Wow, I will definitely check those out. Though, as soon as I clicked on the link for Rage against the Man-chine, I saw an article title that made me chuckle. Reminded me of a blog I like called The Pervocracy. It talks about feminism and consent culture and it mocks Cosmopolitan magazine which is a good enough reason alone to read it. :P

LOL, Cosmo. Sometimes my boyfriend and I read it together, laugh, and then don't follow any of the advice/suggestions it contains. How naughty.

 

I'll have to check out that blog. :laughingsmiley:

[Bubbleline]

Don't get me wrong, I'm mainly playing devil's advocate here - I agree that sexism against women is more far-reaching. I'm just reluctant to say any more than that because 1) I don't want to undermine the discrimination that males do experience, and 2) there's a growing hostility towards feminism that I worry about encouraging. In particular, it's absolutely the most annoying thing in the world when men think that feminism is no longer relevant or that it advocates for female supremacy rather than equality, and then go on to make ridiculous arguments about double standards they think are unfair (e.g. "Women can hit men, why can't men hit women?!?!!").

 

Yes! There is a youtuber called TheAmazingAthiest (which, really, from the name I should've known to avoid) who has made quite a few videos about how he doesn't take feminism seriously because of some of the radical beliefs of a few of us that he picks out and doesn't like. There was a video where he was talking about how women on a talk show (so brilliantly called The Talk) were discussing a situation where a woman castrated her husband simply because he wanted a divorce. They were laughing and joking about it, which I found wrong and inappropriate and annoying, but as far as I know not once have any of those woman ever said that they were feminists. Yet he immediately went on about "that's why I can't take feminism seriously and blah blah blah". He also ignored the fact that one of the women did indeed bring up the fact that it was horrible that they were laughing about it and Sharon Osborn was the one that hand-waved it and continued yukking it up. So many people view feminists as horrible, overzealous, man-hating, loud, angry lesbians. That view is actually why I took a while to decide whether or not I wanted to classify myself as one. It's irritating and ridiculous because we are not all like that group of scary, angry feminist ladies in Law and Order: SVU, but people still find any reason that they can to discredit us. Whether it's out of fear, or unwillingness to question their beliefs and their daily lives, I don't know. But it's always sad and frustrating to me.

 

 

 

Aaaanywho, The Pervocracy is indeed amazing. It has made me want to buy a Cosmo just to see their truly insane claims in person.

[Peppermintc]

This is my intent for this particular thread: I am about to post something, and I want to know if you find it sexist. At any point, you may change the conversation to something ELSE and we can debate the sexism about that instead.

One thing that REALLY bothers me about this is that any time I talk about this with my family they write me off because " you feminists are always complaining" and "teenage girls are always so moody, maybe it's because of their period" when I'm not even complaining , just pointing out actions or behavior that feels sexist in a very calm way.

It feels like, as a young woman, I will never be able to make a point without being called hysterical and whinny.

One portrayal of female characters that annoys me to no end is when a really BAMF female character who is tough and efficient , strong,inteligent sees her whole story arc come to a point in which a romantic relationship with a male character will change her until she becomes unrecognizable: soft, vulnerable, kinda dumb and very obedient of others, and the writers make it seem as if she's better off now, like she's the way she's supossed to be.

[Welcome Back Apathy]

One portrayal of female characters that annoys me to no end is when a really BAMF female character who is tough and efficient , strong,inteligent sees her whole story arc come to a point in which a romantic relationship with a male character will change her until she becomes unrecognizable: soft, vulnerable, kinda dumb and very obedient of others, and the writers make it seem as if she's better off now, like she's the way she's supossed to be.

 

You're right--that happens a lot. And I can't stand it. But really, I just don't like romance books. Or romance in general in books. I feel like a lot of books would be better if they left that part out entirely.

 

The Hunger Games does a pretty good job of NOT doing that--or at least, the character DOES act that way a bit but only for the benefit of cameras and sponsors, and she hates it. But the best feminist character I know of was actually created by a man. Yes, this is true! Thursday Next, the heroine created by Jasper Fforde, is the best feminist character I know of. She is strong; she is a war hero; she is intelligent and well-read. Does she have a love interest? Yes, but the plot of the books does not focus on that UNTIL SHE HAS TO RESCUE HIM. Yup, she rescues him. It's pretty awesome.

[Peppermintc]

You're right--that happens a lot. And I can't stand it. But really, I just don't like romance books. Or romance in general in books. I feel like a lot of books would be better if they left that part out entirely.

Totally agree. It feels as if, everytime a woman character exists is for the sole purpose of being the romantic interest, or if she's the lead, her love life would probably the whole plot.

The Hunger Games does a pretty good job of NOT doing that--or at least, the character DOES act that way a bit but only for the benefit of cameras and sponsors, and she hates it.

Yeah, actually that was I liked the most about HG.

 

But the best feminist character I know of was actually created by a man. Yes, this is true! Thursday Next, the heroine created by Jasper Fforde, is the best feminist character I know of. She is strong; she is a war hero; she is intelligent and well-read. Does she have a love interest? Yes, but the plot of the books does not focus on that UNTIL SHE HAS TO RESCUE HIM. Yup, she rescues him. It's pretty awesome.

Wow, I hadn't heard of that. Googled the guy and read the summaries of the books and they sound GREAT !!

Although ,isn't it kind of sad that your favourite feminist character was created by a man?

[Welcome Back Apathy]

Wow, I hadn't heard of that. Googled the guy and read the summaries of the books and they sound GREAT !!

Although ,isn't it kind of sad that your favourite feminist character was created by a man?

 

I thought about that, and...no, I'm cool with a man creating the most feminist character. I love it when men are great feminists. It helps to have them on our side. If there had been more feminist men when Daniel Tosh was encouraging men to rape that woman, then his bullying wouldn't have worked so well.

[passiflora]

Yes! There is a youtuber called TheAmazingAthiest (which, really, from the name I should've known to avoid) who has made quite a few videos about how he doesn't take feminism seriously because of some of the radical beliefs of a few of us that he picks out and doesn't like. There was a video where he was talking about how women on a talk show (so brilliantly called The Talk) were discussing a situation where a woman castrated her husband simply because he wanted a divorce. They were laughing and joking about it, which I found wrong and inappropriate and annoying, but as far as I know not once have any of those woman ever said that they were feminists. Yet he immediately went on about "that's why I can't take feminism seriously and blah blah blah". He also ignored the fact that one of the women did indeed bring up the fact that it was horrible that they were laughing about it and Sharon Osborn was the one that hand-waved it and continued yukking it up. So many people view feminists as horrible, overzealous, man-hating, loud, angry lesbians. That view is actually why I took a while to decide whether or not I wanted to classify myself as one. It's irritating and ridiculous because we are not all like that group of scary, angry feminist ladies in Law and Order: SVU, but people still find any reason that they can to discredit us. Whether it's out of fear, or unwillingness to question their beliefs and their daily lives, I don't know. But it's always sad and frustrating to me.

His beliefs about women have nothing to do with him being an atheist. ;) That guy is generally regarded as a huge jerk even within the atheist community - I think at one point he started to propel the whole "men's rights/anti feminism" thing forward, but it seems like people are (hopefully) starting to recognize how obnoxious he is. But yes, it's indeed annoying when people are so against feminism; usually I think it's because they just don't understand it. :(

 

 

The Hunger Games does a pretty good job of NOT doing that--or at least, the character DOES act that way a bit but only for the benefit of cameras and sponsors, and she hates it. But the best feminist character I know of was actually created by a man. Yes, this is true! Thursday Next, the heroine created by Jasper Fforde, is the best feminist character I know of. She is strong; she is a war hero; she is intelligent and well-read. Does she have a love interest? Yes, but the plot of the books does not focus on that UNTIL SHE HAS TO RESCUE HIM. Yup, she rescues him. It's pretty awesome.

I thought the Hunger Games still had more angst and romantic blather than necessary, but I guess it was trying to appeal to a younger crowd. It still dissolved into "Team Peeta vs Team Gale" the same way Twilight did with "Team Edward vs Team Jacob", although I suppose Katniss is still a 10937519871852x better role model than Bella will ever be. Bella either went comatose or became reckless whenever she didn't get her way (i.e. her love life wasn't panning out the way she wanted it to), and it was so infuriating. Ugh. :(

 

I'll have to check out those books, they sound interesting. And refreshing. :laughingsmiley:

 

 

If there had been more feminist men when Daniel Tosh was encouraging men to rape that woman

When did he ever encourage anyone to rape somebody?

[Rebecca~]

When did he ever encourage anyone to rape somebody?

In a blog entry posted on Tumblr, an audience member wrote that after Tosh told a series of jokes proclaiming that rape is always funny, she called out "Actually, rape jokes are never funny!"

To which she claims Tosh replied: "Wouldn't it be funny if that girl got raped by like, five guys right now? Like right now? What if a bunch of guys just raped her..."

 

 

Quoted from a Guardian article.

I would call that incitement to rape, myself. :/ Pretty disgusting.

[Bubbleline]

His beliefs about women have nothing to do with him being an atheist. ;) That guy is generally regarded as a huge jerk even within the atheist community - I think at one point he started to propel the whole "men's rights/anti feminism" thing forward, but it seems like people are (hopefully) starting to recognize how obnoxious he is. But yes, it's indeed annoying when people are so against feminism; usually I think it's because they just don't understand it. :(

 

I didn't mean I should've stayed away because he was an athiest. I meant that the name sounded ridiculous and 'holier-than-thou'-ish. If that makes sense? I should probably shut up.

[passiflora]

Quoted from a Guardian article.

I would call that incitement to rape, myself. :/ Pretty disgusting.

The comedy club owner suggests that things aren't as bad as they seem - rape was actually suggested by another member of the audience (as opposed to Tosh "being repetitive about it"), and that the lady actually stayed for the entire show (as opposed to "high-tailing it out of there"/"having to basically flee").

 

 

I've read the actual Tumblr post and TBH, both accounts (from the blogger & from Jamie Masada) seem overly melodramatic, and I doubt either of them tell the whole story. I don't think what Tosh said was funny either way; he probably shouldn't have said it and people are free to criticize him if they want, but I still don't think he deserved the amount of negative attention he got.

 

I didn't mean I should've stayed away because he was an athiest. I meant that the name sounded ridiculous and 'holier-than-thou'-ish. If that makes sense? I should probably shut up.

Oh okay. Just making sure! I've met people who assume he's a bad person just because he's an atheist, and on the flip side I've also met people who think he's Da Bomb just because he's an atheist. Thanks for clearing it up - I guess we can all agree that he's not a very nice person, at least. :laughingsmiley:

[cleomiele]

One thing that REALLY bothers me about this is that any time I talk about this with my family they write me off because " you feminists are always complaining" and "teenage girls are always so moody, maybe it's because of their period" when I'm not even complaining , just pointing out actions or behavior that feels sexist in a very calm way.

 

This is a little late, but YESYESYES I cannot empathize with you more. It's hard enough to be taken seriously with things like feminism in our society in the first place, but it's damn-near impossible when you're really young as well. In high school I hung out primarily with guys, and I cannot tell you how many sandwich jokes or, "You're probably just on your period!" remarks I got whenever I tried to stand up to something sexist. It's bloody frustrating!

 

Also, yes, I think everyone can agree that TAA is just a very vocal idiot...and not because he's an atheist ;)

[sarria33]

I think just the fact that people have so much fun making fun of women means that feminism is needed in our society. Sandwhich jokes, the Dr. pepper one, period jokes, hit like a girl jokes - the bother me so much! Society need to stop treating women like we are second class citizens.

[psychology]

sexism does not only apply to women and many people seem to overlook this, even though it's an incredibly simple concept. i do consider myself an equalist, humanist, feminist (although i've began to separate myself from the word feminist since it's pinned to mean 'man hater' nowadays), it does NOT mean women have the right to discriminate against men.

[~Xandria]

Hmm, this isn't really "What I find sexist" but more of "Who I find sexist". Just two words, Mitt Romney. Really not trying to start a political debate, but from his actions and what he has said to the public, I find him to be the most ghastly excuse for a presidential candidate we've seen yet.

[Duke_Sloth]

I seem to find most feminists suffer from a bad case of misandry and seem to be quite adverse to the use of razors.

:woot:

[Rebecca~]

sexism does not only apply to women and many people seem to overlook this, even though it's an incredibly simple concept. i do consider myself an equalist, humanist, feminist (although i've began to separate myself from the word feminist since it's pinned to mean 'man hater' nowadays), it does NOT mean women have the right to discriminate against men.

Sexism only does apply to women, actually. Discrimination against men based on their sex is terrible, but it's not institutionalised, and therefore, is not sexism.

 

I seem to find most feminists suffer from a bad case of misandry and seem to be quite adverse to the use of razors.

:woot:

Most of the feminists I know do shave, though I don't most of the time. What's the big deal with women not shaving. Oh no, ladies have an almost equal amount of body hair to men, how will we ever deal?!

[psychology]

Sexism only does apply to women, actually. Discrimination against men based on their sex is terrible, but it's not institutionalised, and therefore, is not sexism.

 

uh LOL? i'm not sure if you're serious or just incredibly uninformed. there are so many sexist advertisements against men. the fact that you think sexism only applies to women is sexism in itself.

 

sex·ism/ˈsekˌsizəm/

Noun: Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

 

durp. typically against women, not purely against women.

 

 

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[Rebecca~]

uh LOL? i'm not sure if you're serious or just incredibly uninformed. there are so many sexist advertisements against men. the fact that you think sexism only applies to women is sexism in itself.

 

sex·ism/ˈsekˌsizəm/

Noun: Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

 

durp. typically against women, not purely against women.

 

 

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Nope. Every single sociology class I have ever taken that has discussed sexism (or any discrimiation, actually) defined it as discrimination + power. All of the readings I have done outside of those classes have defined it the same way. Thus, people of colour can not be racist, women can not be sexist, poor people can`t be classist, etc. While women and people of colour can both discriminate against their societal oppressors, they don`t have the institutionalised power in order to make it anything but individual bigotry.

 

I have compiled some reading for you, if you're interested.

http://apicp.tumblr.com/post/21272850249/the-disadvantages-of-being-a-man-by-danica-liu

http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/sexism-definition/

 

 

Though, maybe I should clarify- sexism can hurt men, but it's not sexism that is directed at them. It is sexism against women that harms men as well. The patriarchial attitude that tells women that they should be in caring jobs (if they have a job at all!) can lead to men entering those careers being insulted. My brother, for example, left a job at a lumber mill to go to school to become a nurse. I bet you can imagine some of the insults that were thrown at him- all of them have to do with questioning his manliness, right? Things like that are intended to say that being like a woman is a terrible thing that should be avoided at all costs- and those attitudes, men avoiding "pink collar jobs", can hurt men. But it hurts them as a side effect of being sexist against women.

[cleomiele]

Nope. Every single sociology class I have ever taken that has discussed sexism (or any discrimiation, actually) defined it as discrimination + power. All of the readings I have done outside of those classes have defined it the same way. Thus, people of colour can not be racist, women can not be sexist, poor people can`t be classist, etc. While women and people of colour can both discriminate against their societal oppressors, they don`t have the institutionalised power in order to make it anything but individual bigotry.

 

I have compiled some reading for you, if you're interested.

http://apicp.tumblr....n-by-danica-liu

http://finallyfemini...ism-definition/

 

 

Though, maybe I should clarify- sexism can hurt men, but it's not sexism that is directed at them. It is sexism against women that harms men as well. The patriarchial attitude that tells women that they should be in caring jobs (if they have a job at all!) can lead to men entering those careers being insulted. My brother, for example, left a job at a lumber mill to go to school to become a nurse. I bet you can imagine some of the insults that were thrown at him- all of them have to do with questioning his manliness, right? Things like that are intended to say that being like a woman is a terrible thing that should be avoided at all costs- and those attitudes, men avoiding "pink collar jobs", can hurt men. But it hurts them as a side effect of being sexist against women.

 

I'm so glad we can 'like' posts now. Listen to this lady ^ Oh darn, I was about to link to a relevant blog but it's the same as one of yours, Rebecca :P Finally Feminism is great!

 

To reiterate the point, women can be PREJUDICED towards men, as people of color can be PREJUDICED towards white people. However, due to there not being inherent societal pressure/power associated with that prejudice, it is not institutionalized and therefore it is not actually sexist or racist. "Men as a class are privileged over women as a class," to quote one of the above links, and thus a man's misogynistic comments carry more weight. In regards to your comment about 'sexist' advertisements towards men, yes, they do hurt men, but that is yet another side-effect of our sexist (towards women) culture, where being anything but super-manly (i.e. a woman) is just HORRIBLE. You can read more about that in the Finally Feminist link, if you choose to do so.

 

On another note, a sexist comment that ticked me off in my economics class this week: we were having a discussion about substitute goods when something becomes too expensive, and my professor asked, "So if you were going to get your girlfriend a diamond ring for Valentine's Day, but the price skyrockets, what can you get her instead that is cheaper and also a good gift of comparable quality?" Of course, OF COURSE, there had to be one guy that said, with the conviction that he was just the most clever thing in the room, "A mop and a bucket?" I've never glared so hard at a total stranger.

[Dynohawk]

Society thinking it's ok for women to hit men.