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Realcar

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Hey all, thanks for the help ahead of time.

 

I have about 10-13 mil to throw around. I'm mostly interested in 1P; I'm pretty sure I'll need a lot more NP (and better stats) before I get into the world of 2p.

 

 

 

Endurance: 107

Strenght: 85

Defense: 85

Move: blah

Int: 100

 

I'm pretty solidly training, and I expect to hit the 125 boost in strength and defense within the next three weeks and get closer to 200 hp.

 

Current Stuff

My current set is an almost funny mix of somewhat higher end items and lower level junk.

G-bomb

Greater Healing Scroll

Hanso Charisma Charm

Scarab Ring

Mystical White Coat

Ancient Lupe Wand (reserved for the ones that count)

 

I'm debating whether or not to buy a Hubrid Nox Shield just to survive in fights a little longer (white cloak is very meh). If I was going with that on the one hand and my Hanso charm (I LOVE that thing) in the other, it would be pretty hard to hurt me, and I would still be dishing out pretty serious amounts of damage.

 

On the flip side I'm thinking about picking up a heavy hitter like sword of rief or KBT.

 

I just sank enough cash into the greater healing scroll, that I'm not really planning to upgrade to one of the more serious healers, especially since they are so expensive right now.

 

 

I would appreciate any advice, thanks!

 

R

 

 

 

 

Note:

I have a Ridiculous Battle Hammer lying around somewhere.

An Altadorian Swordbreaker is sort of on my buy list. Should I get one, or not? If I do, I'm going to wait till after the way when it deflates.

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The first thing I would upgrade is the Scarab Ring. Scarab Ring is great for beginners, but it just doesn't cut it for someone at your level. It took me awhile to let go of my Scarab Ring way back when, because I really liked dual duties, but I found I could do so much more with a shield and a constant, or even two constants!

 

So, I would upgrade that. If you want to spend the NP, anagram swords and KBT are great, but it's a big jump from Scarab Ring. If you want to save the NP, you could do something more like Ylanas Blaster, Brynns Legendary Sword of Wraith Smiting, Altador Cup Throwing Star, Bow Of Destiny, or Wand Of Reality. Altadorian Swordbreaker and Ridiculously Heavy Battle Hammer would work and are good weapon, but they're in a lower class than those on this list.

 

Upgrading your shield is also a good idea. Hubrid Nox Memorial Shield is a good one. You could also look into Sophies Magic Hat to save some NP, or one of the other full blockers like Faerie Tabard, Dr. Sloths Personal Body Armour, Shield of Faerieland, or Ghostkershield.

 

GHS should be a sufficient healer for you, since it's pretty much a 50% healer. It should last you awhile.

 

Ancient Lupe Wand is a great weapon. I used it until recently, when I started zapping my pet again. My strategy is based on freezing, so I used it every time, and it didn't seem to break as much as Scroll of Freezing. Plus, even if it does break, it's pretty cheap to replace. So, if I were you, I wouldn't be afraid to use it and feel compelled to reserve it. But it's up to you!

 

And definitely keep training!

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With the addition of the Ghostkerbomb in your set, I'll be suggesting something that would hopefully fit into your budget properly.

 

Okay. First,I urge you to keep the following - Ghostkerbomb, Ancient Lupe Wand, Greater Healing Scroll and Hanso Charisma Charm. The others, do sell them or keep them in your SDB as they are not on par with your other weapons (I'm pretty sure you know that :D )

 

Okay. Now for suggestions. For constants, definitely go for what Lamppost suggested. They're great weapons in general to have. Personally, I'd go for either: Kelpbeards Trident + Hanso Charisma Charm (which you already have) or Bow of Destiny + Bow of Destiny (I personally like the icon combinations because they're some of the harder to block icons). The former would leave you with around 5 or so million left to spend, but you wouldn't have to upgrade to a different constant, you would just have to buy another when you have neopoints. The latter would leave you with around 10-11 mil or so, but you would have to upgrade them later on when you have enough money.

 

I'd recommend for shields the ever-popular Leaf Shield and my ever favorite Sophies Magic Hat. But if you're willing to spend neopoints, I have a shield combination that I promote a lot (it's my target shield combo as well) - Hubrid Nox Memorial Shield (Full light blockage, defends 5 air, 5 water, 5 earth and 5 physical) + Clawed Shield (reflects 61-80% fire, defends 3 dark) which covers every possible icon combination that would be thrown at you :) But that's for later on.

 

The rest of your money should be spent on training because a Scuzzys Comb used by a pet with 750 Strength boost deals more damage than a pet with a 55 strength boost using a Super Attack Pea. As a person on the BD Chat once said to me - Your best asset in the Battledome will always be your pets.

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Thank you both for the advice! Very much appreciated to get the help.

 

Looks like the consensus is to jump up from the Scarab Ring. Personally I think I'd rather go big than upgrade to something I would just have to upgrade later, so I'm probably going to be looking at the KBT.

 

That'll leave me only 3 mil or so away from the Hubrid Nox which I guess will be next on my list to pick up. I have the same feeling as above about buying Sophies Hat. I'd rather just go big.

 

So with a two month or so time horizon, I'll have:

-Gbomb

-Hanso Charm

-KBT

-Hubrid Nox Shield

-Greater Healing Scroll

-Ancient Lupe Wand

 

That looks like a pretty decent set to me. I guess later buys might be a Clawed Shield and maybe longer down the road a bigger healer. Any more advice about that?

 

Don't worry about me training my pet. He's literally constantly in the training school. Thus far key quest has done a pretty good job of paying for the training.

 

Best,

R

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I'd pretty much say that you'd need another strong constant - check out Sword of Skardsen, Sword of Reif, Sword of Ari, Sword of Thare, and Pirate Captains Cutlass for other constants to use alongside your Kelpbeards Trident.

 

Also, get a Downsize! as it will serve you for the longest time 'til you upgrade to the likes of Thyoras Tear :)

 

For healers, when you get to around 100 HP, upgrade to a Short Sleeved Yellow Tunic. When you get to around 200 HP, upgrade to a Crisp Blue Tunic. When you get to around 500 HP, go for Velms Healing Potion or better yet Bag of Healing Dust. When you get to higher than that, Jade Scorchstone and Leaded Elemental Vial are the only upgrades you'll want with that titanic HP. Or you can go for JSS and LEV immediately XD You can also check out Everlasting Crystal Apple as it is heals 30 HP and is multi-heal. It also allows you to see your opponent's weaponry! :D

 

For freezers, you might want to upgrade eventually to Heavy Blue Tunic which defends and 100% freezes as well, but it also requires intelligence equal to (or higher than) 1000 :/ . They're the best unless you would want offensive freezers like Magical Marbles of Mystery, Freezing Potion, Dr. Sloth Approved Hair Gel and Sleep Ray (arranged from "cheapest" to "most expensive"), which are around the price of the HBT or lower. Unless you would get a Moehog Skull (the ultimate freezer as it attacks, defends and 100% freezes - kinda like a bomb) but that's around the hundred millions.

 

So my suggested target set for you would be:

 

Kelpbeards Trident

Sword of Ari/Sword of Thare/Sword of Reif/Sword of Skardsen/Pirate Captains Cutlass

Ghostkerbomb

Hubrid Nox Memorial Shield

Clawed Shield

Magical Marbles of Mystery

Everlasting Crystal Apple/Bag of Healing Dust (depends on what level you're gonna be at :D)

Downsize!

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I think the days of such an elite set are quite a ways off for me. Thanks though!

 

What do you think about picking up a mid-range dual duty to replace the scarab ring, like the rusty pitchfork? I could easily afford that in addition to Hubrid's Shield, and combined with the Hanso Charm I'd be dealing out a fair amount of damage and keeping pretty well protected.

 

Are there any other affordable dual duties? Or is it more worth it to just go straight to the KBT and forget about the defensive icons?

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Sword of the Dead matches a nice niche if your opponent is heavy on light.

While I carry a KBT, it is a far better weapon for 1 player than 2. Also remember that one of the battledome opponents carries a weird niche weapon that will break your KBT for battle duration, never trust a wolf in cheap clothing.

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Okay guys, sorry to keep posting. It's discount day at the Hidden Tower tomorrow, and it's pretty clear I need to either pick up the Hubrid Nox Memorial Shield or Kelpbeards Trident. What do you guys say, which one do I go for?

 

I've been continuing to work on my stats. The only real change is taht I'm planning to hit the 125 strength boost some time tomorrow. I'm planning to hit the defensive one within three or four days (for plot purposes), even if I have to make up the difference in armoured neggs.

 

Lvl : 61
Str : 100
Def : 85
Mov : 31
Hp : 118 / 118

 

So what do you guys think I should do to have the best possible changes of kicking some butt in the plot?

 

Realcar

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If you're focusing on strength training, you're better off investing in attack weapons than shields. You'll get more out of them, since the icons are worth more to you. So, I'd suggest getting the KBT instead of the HNMS.

 

I just generally like attack weapons better, too. You can't win a battle with a strong shield, you can only minimize the damage to you. With a strong attack weapon, you can outpower your opponent.

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So what's the best commonly available weapon? (1 player) I keep reading that the sword ofs and KBT are all pretty darn strong, and from searching on battlepedia, I can't seem to find anything better that won't cost a lot (semi retired/cove/whatever). Is KBT the way to go then just due to affordability?

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KBT and anagram swords are pretty similar. They both have the same minimum and maximum icons, as well as the same average icons (to 5 decimal points). The biggest difference between the KBT and the Sword of Tawre is the ratio of water and physical icons.

 

Because KBT does the same number of icons yet is 1-2 million cheaper, then I would say, yes, KBT is the way to go due to affordability.

 

One downside to KBT to note is the massive amount of water icons. I've tried battling The Drenched with it, and they just reflect most of the water back to me. It's not easy. It's mostly a problem if you're battling in Dome of the Deep, though, since those opponents tend to have good water defenses.

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Reflectors are a problem, and part of the reason to not use KBT when attacking the Drenched. Also, the KBT is considered a "Fork" and there is one opponent that carries that nice little weapon that destroys all forks (for the duration of battle only).

Yes, it's Balthazar, when he uses his Bent Fork. And it does create problems when you're battling him.
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