Tycho Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Isn't the code for CGs basically the same? They should just block any chunk of HTML garbage that even looks like a CGer. I'm sure there's certain keywords that stick out in every CG text. And you know, they're returning accounts, that's great, that's fantastic. But you know what'd make it easier on them? Programming the lookups and pet pages to not let CG programming into the edit space. It's frustratingly simple, and yet they're more willing to tediously pour over every single stolen account case? That's beyond stupid. It's not conducive to time or anything. They're so into their precious NC Mall ((which I'm honestly surprised hasn't gone to hell yet)) that they forget that Neopets is for US, for kids, not them. I dislike how they keep saying OH IT'S FREE LOLZ but then they charge you for all the features that anyone would actually WANT. Example: the daily game challenge. You have to BUY a ticket now? What the hell. If they wanted to monopolize all the money on the internet, it wouldn't be an interactive pet site. But they're not going to make and keep it safe for us? That's ridiculous. They're not lazy, no. They're stubborn. There's a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingeevee Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I'll be happy enough to know that my stuff are back and for everyone else that got involved to get theirs back as well. Still can't believe the number of people that rushed to that Maraquan Draik event :( I don't know what to say about TNT....right now they're my only hope on getting my stuff back and I know I would love them if I got all my points back too. I still complain about some things they do though...like their filters on the guilds you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Mike~ Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Isn't the code for CGs basically the same? They should just block any chunk of HTML garbage that even looks like a CGer. I'm sure there's certain keywords that stick out in every CG text. And you know, they're returning accounts, that's great, that's fantastic. But you know what'd make it easier on them? Programming the lookups and pet pages to not let CG programming into the edit space. It's frustratingly simple, and yet they're more willing to tediously pour over every single stolen account case? That's beyond stupid. It's not conducive to time or anything. They're so into their precious NC Mall ((which I'm honestly surprised hasn't gone to hell yet)) that they forget that Neopets is for US, for kids, not them. I dislike how they keep saying OH IT'S FREE LOLZ but then they charge you for all the features that anyone would actually WANT. Example: the daily game challenge. You have to BUY a ticket now? What the hell. If they wanted to monopolize all the money on the internet, it wouldn't be an interactive pet site. But they're not going to make and keep it safe for us? That's ridiculous. They're not lazy, no. They're stubborn. There's a difference. There are always ways around any preventative measure. Neopets is no longer owned by the original owners. It is now owned by nickelodeon which is a company. Neopets is one of the biggest advertisement options to target young children and one of the biggest databases for young advertising as well. It is all about money there is no more genuine neopets. They release neocash and then make it desirable to buy it and spend on clothing to dress up your pet by adding "Style Showdown". This is also just the beginning. Keep in mind if you want to invest in items that will go up in value ATM the hot item is wearables because it is in the nc mall. If they ever add something else to the nc mall, all the non neocash items of the same type will go up as well. For example According to one site it ishttp://www.neopets.com/contact.phtml Look at the bottom, under Business Related http://www.mtv.com.au/info/neopets-advertising-opportunities Immersive advertising Immersive advertising is a trademarked term for the way Neopets displayed advertisements to generate profit after Doug Dohring bought the site.[4] Instead of running pop-up and banner ads, immersive ads integrate advertisements into the site's content in interactive forms, including games and items. Players can earn Neopoints from them by doing things such as playing advergames and taking part in online marketing surveys.[33] Prior to the arrival of the NC Mall, it contributed to 60% of the revenue from the site[22] with paying Fortune 1000 companies including Disney, General Mills, and McDonald's.[33] It was a contentious issue with the site with regard to the ethics of marketing to children. Half a million of the 25 million users were under the age of eight in 2005 and children under eight have difficulty recognizing ads.[4][33][34] It draws criticism from parents, psychologists, and consumer advocates who argue that children may not know that they are trying to be sold something, as it blurs the line between site content and advertisement. A psychology professor at Georgetown University stated, "It's self marketing, selling to kids that don't know they are seeing anything".[34] Dohring responded to such criticism: "Over 60 percent of our audience is 13 and over, so it is not like we are dealing with four- to six-year-olds that may not quite understand the difference between content and advertising. And of the 40 percent of our users who are 12 or under, the ages start at around seven or eight years old and go up from there. The preschoolers are not really our audience, because you have to be a pretty fluid reader to navigate the site."[35] Others criticised the functionality of the site. Susan Linn, another psychologist and author of Consuming Kids: The Hostile Takeover of Childhood said, "The whole purpose of this site at this point is to keep kids in front of products".[34] Kalle Lasn, editor-in-chief and co-founder of Adbusters magazine, said the site was "encouraging kids to spend hours in front of the screen and at the same time recruiting them into consumer culture", which was "the most insidious mind-ghostkerchief ever".[4] Neopets executives have stated in 2004 and 2006 that paid content comprised less than 1% of the site's total content.[33][34] Children are not required to play or use sponsor games and items.[4][36] Consumer advocates also argue that immersive ads should be clearly labelled as advertisements. Dohring has said, "We're not trying to be subliminal or deceive the user. We label all the immersive ad campaigns as paid advertisements."[33] taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephie23 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 well that was interesting ... but in the Academic world Wikipedia is not a reliable source since anyone can edit it of their free will :P (sorry had to throw that in there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Mike~ Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 well that was interesting ... but in the Academic world Wikipedia is not a reliable source since anyone can edit it of their free will :P (sorry had to throw that in there) Yes very true :) This post has been edited by a member of staff (Ruto) because of a violation of the forum rules. Please make sure all posts have at least seven words. Quotes and smileys don't count. Please check your user inbox to see if you have been contacted regarding this incident, then review our rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Severus Snape Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 well that was interesting ... but in the Academic world Wikipedia is not a reliable source since anyone can edit it of their free will :P (sorry had to throw that in there) Wikipedia is verified by lots of full-time editors in real-time. Whilst not entirely reliable for every page out there, most important pages are constantly proofed. You can't even edit things without at least 15 editors coming down on you do revert your changes after one second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Mike~ Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Wikipedia is verified by lots of full-time editors in real-time. Whilst not entirely reliable for every page out there, most important pages are constantly proofed. You can't even edit things without at least 15 editors coming down on you do revert your changes after one second. First thing my english professors told me in college is "you cannot use wikki for anything!" "If you do I will fail you" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Severus Snape Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 First thing my english professors told me in college is "you cannot use wikki for anything!" "If you do I will fail you" And how does that correlate to Wikipedia not being reliable? As far as I know, Wikipedia is not allowed in college because of plagiarism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruto Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Guys, please stay on topic. This is about CGers, not about the accuracy of Wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ryan Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Lulz, but maybe we are staying on topic because there's always a posibility of wikipedia being CGed. :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephie23 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 oops my bad! ... so those darn CGers eh ... *leaves to make topic on wikipedia* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I've already stated my point in this topic, and I'll be dropping by the Wikipedia topic soon, but I just wanted to say that I've noticed some misuse of the term 'hacker' on this topic. See http://www.tdnforums.com/index.php?showtopic=15884 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Wow, seriously? That's horrible! But they can't disable javascript, I mean ALL if not all of their games, and wheels, etc run on javascript o_O...if they didn't then they can't really control neo e.g. the no right click on shop layouts etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephie23 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Thats true. ITs gotta be insanely hard for neo to try and combat these people... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler. Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I have this new thing on my computer that prevents you from going to CG websites. Install it and don't live in fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaircraft Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Wow, seriously? That's horrible! But they can't disable javascript, I mean ALL if not all of their games, and wheels, etc run on javascript o_O A site-wide JavaScript blanket ban isn't relevant here. What TNT is trying to do (and what is pretty much the only solution) is disable JavaScript in user editable areas: lookups, petpages, shops, and so on. If they managed to do this, they'd pretty much eliminate the issue of any old cracker being able to slip in CGers. :yes: Of course, it's much harder than it sounds, as I explained in my earlier post. I have this new thing on my computer that prevents you from going to CG websites. Install it and don't live in fear Would you be talking about SiteAdvisor, WoT or some similar program? I seriously doubt those are applicable to the Neopets issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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