Deepti M. Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Well, the other topic was locked. What do you think about stem cell research? My mom and dad both work in the stem cell field. First of all, I would like to say that they don't clone humans or abort babies or anything like that. I know some do, but my parents don't, so please don't slam me on that fact. I'm for stem cell research. I think it can get cures for things such as cancer and AIDS. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategos Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I think that stem cell research is acceptable under certain circumstances. For example, I think it's a very good idea for medical cures. However, with cloning, I'm not so sure. That's perhaps not as morally acceptable. So it really depends on what stem cell research is being used for, since it's a very broad field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antjie Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 a little bit off the topic but when someone reached the final stage of HIV - full blown AIDS, they've earned the right to die because they did not care to take enough care of their bodies and health during the 1st 3 stages. I feel the worlds ficsation on HIV is totally misplaced because there is already more than 1 way to stop it... Safe sex, abstinance, no use of others needles. In my opinion, the only peeople who should recieve AZT for HIV is the pregnant mothers so they dont carry on the disease to their babies. There is enough information about HIV out there, if people dont care to wake up and take better precautions, they are only to blame themselves. There are far worse diseases out there to investigate and spend money on like Hepatitus, cancer and MS, just to name a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Stem cell research is an intaresting topic, Christian people are totally against it. Lucky for me Im Jewish so Im all for stem cell research. People like me who lost an organ in an accident can have one recreated through the stem cells, they are the shapeshifters of the human body. and to Antjie, nobody deserves to die, no matter how many mistakes they make, even drug addicts who inject themselves with the disease, or prostitutes who get the disease through sex. they made mistakes and dont deserve to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antjie Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Christians are NOT against stemcell research, i know coz i am one. secondly, if i have a desease like cancer or HIV or whatever and want to die, i DO have the right to it. Are you telling me you are going to pump me full of meds against my will jsut because you think i dont deserve the right to die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyra Trebon Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 secondly, if i have a desease like cancer or HIV or whatever and want to die, i DO have the right to it. Are you telling me you are going to pump me full of meds against my will jsut because you think i dont deserve the right to die? That is not what he was arguing. Basically all Mantis was saying was that just AIDS does not automatically mean someone should be denied medication if they wanted it. I know someone who was raped and she got HIV from that. Is she at fault for contracting the disease? If you really didn't want medication, then no one can force you to take it. We just think that if you do want it, you should be able to get it. And as for stem cell research, I too am a Christian, but I am for it under certain circumstances. As long as it is being used in a way that makes the most of it (not wasting any resources, etc), I don't see the problem in using it to help people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antjie Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 unfortunatly does not matter how we argue about it, if they did not take or do not take care of their bodies, they aint getting it anyway. Protocal says you may recieve AZT if your CD4 count goes under 200, but you dont jsut get it because you want it. You need to proof your willingness to help to get better before they hand out that expensive meds for free. 1. You have to attend 3 consecutive meetings over 3 weeks with a councelor. 2. You have to stop smoking and drinking. 3. You have to eat and live healthy. Once you adhere to all those above you will recieve the meds weekly...miss a day and you are out the program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabre Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Stem cell research is an intaresting topic, Christian people are totally against it. That's completely untrue. A lot of Christians have problems with *embryonic* stem cell research-I've talked to quite a few Christians about this subject and they are all fine with stem cell research from sources that won't kill developing humans. There's a big difference. As we've already covered (on the first topic), stem cells from other sources tend to be the best anyway. On the issue of on cloning humans, I can't say I've looked into the issue *too much* but something about it just doesn't look right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linddz Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Personally, I think Stem Cell research is good in all aspects. It'll help with medicine, aids, cancer, and people who have lost organs. As far as cloning is concerned, that could be good too. You never know what could be engineered after how we figured out how to clone. For all we know, this could lead to stronger people, faster people, people able to do so much more. We never know until we try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepti M. Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 Yes, but there are also risks to the cloning. What if this could lead to a new disease? Kind of like I am Legend. They thought they had found a cure for cancer, but instead their whole world turned into turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00fin_hearts_chocolate Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 *shudders* I hope it doesnt lead to any other disease,either!with the A(H1N1) virus around,I can barely let go of the computer.:| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linddz Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Well, I'd doubt it'd turn into anything like that. That's a movie too, not what will actually happen. The only problem I can see with cloning is the cloned only live half as long as the original, because they too are people. But once we fix that, we could advance so much in science, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antjie Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Just think about how many people could live longer if hearts, lungs and livers etc was being cloned by their own tissue... no more rejection and no more long waiting lists for someone else to die so you can live longer. I see you nodding and agreeing, it would be a good thing and no one was being harmed and it feels morally acceptable... why let someone die if you could help them? Now apply it to other things.... bigger, better cows for better milk production bigger better sheep/chickens/fish etc for more meat bigger better veggies/fruit People now dont have to starve of hunger, all morally accepted Now what about that little baby parents can not have because they cant produce a baby the normal way... why say no to them? but you play "God" over other things... Just something to think about :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00fin_hearts_chocolate Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Hey Antije,you made it sound even better.:D I like the idea now that you clarified that. {no one would be hungry anymore?that would be a great find!} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruto Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Now what about that little baby parents can not have because they cant produce a baby the normal way... why say no to them? but you play "God" over other things... Just something to think about :) There's always adoption. There are plenty of orphaned/abandoned children that deserve a home. Christian people are totally against it. Wrong. I think it would help medical science greatly, considering that I'm going into that field. But cloning a human? I don't see how that helps anything at all. It seems like it's only being experimented on just to see if it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youber12 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I work in the stem cell field also and I am all for it. It is cutting edge and mine deals with adult stem cells of existing cell lines...not new embryonic lines...which are more unstable anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antjie Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 all there fields are so close together. You can already chose the gender of your baby and remove genetic defects and no one is going to look at you strangely for doing that. I mean, if you dont have to have a baby with 12 toes or fingers why have it if the faulty gene could be removed? If you do a little research on the internet, you will be amazed at how many things can be changed/corrected before a baby is even born and its all legal - even before an egg is being vertilized. A little manipulation here, and a bit there and Voila! ya got yourself a super baby, sounds far-fetched? Could be but is also true and posible. The only question remaining is at what point do one stop and say its enough and how far are people willing to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeper unidog Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I think the stem cell research is fascinating, I mean look at all the diseases you could cure. I` m a christian and I think its ok but i do not like the idea of innocent babies being aborted. So yeah, if innocent lives arent harmed i would be all up for it. all there fields are so close together. You can already chose the gender of your baby and remove genetic defects and no one is going to look at you strangely for doing that. I mean, if you dont have to have a baby with 12 toes or fingers why have it if the faulty gene could be removed? If you do a little research on the internet, you will be amazed at how many things can be changed/corrected before a baby is even born and its all legal - even before an egg is being vertilized. A little manipulation here, and a bit there and Voila! ya got yourself a super baby, sounds far-fetched? Could be but is also true and posible. The only question remaining is at what point do one stop and say its enough and how far are people willing to go... Actually Im against that. This actually lets you choose your own baby, and i think its sad. You know why? Its your baby and you have to love it even with defects[i mean the ones that you cant die from]. So what if your baby has 12 toes and fingers? Its being unique in their own way. For me if you choose how the baby looks like, its like you only see the outside in a way and you cant entirely love the baby for who he/she is. [btw this is no offense at all to people who support it im just saying my opinion] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monica3981 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Actually Im against that. This actually lets you choose your own baby, and i think its sad. You know why? Its your baby and you have to love it even with defects[i mean the ones that you cant die from]. So what if your baby has 12 toes and fingers? Its being unique in their own way. For me if you choose how the baby looks like, its like you only see the outside in a way and you cant entirely love the baby for who he/she is. [btw this is no offense at all to people who support it im just saying my opinion] --------------------------------------- so right , its the love that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I'm for stem cell research too; as long as people don't purposely abort babies just for researching. "Use" embryos that have been aborted by people because they won't be able to take care of the baby or didn't have a baby wish. Some things are good about being able to modify a baby. You can prevent a lot of kids from having a lot of pain from an uncurable disease. Also, in China, less children would be aborted or put up for adoption (because they can choose to have a boy). I don't know if it's a good thing that men would take over China, but that's a whole other discussion. :P It's a bit of a scary idea people could choose what kind of baby they want with a certain personality. Before you know, the continents with a good economy are filled with only smart people, and the poorer continents have way more "dumber" (sorry to put it that way) people because they can't afford to have their kids modified. But I don't think they'll be perfectly able to do this within the next 5 years, so I'll think another few years about it. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yishie Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I'm generally for stem cell research, I mean it's going to save a lot of lives in the future. However, that's also one of my main concerns, humans are going to be living to long, and at the rate the population is growing, I'm not sure the Earth will be able to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 I'm pretty sure myself Earth won't survive. All because there are too many human beings, taking from the earth, but not giving back. It's a shame, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antjie Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 people stop thinking one dimentionaly when i said 12 toes and fingers, i jsut took an easy comfortable example. i could have asked if you want your baby to be born wiht an cleft lip/palet/nose or wiht spina bifida (open back) or Cri du Chat? there are 1000's of bad genetic diseases out there thsat can be maniplulated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I would prefer that my kid wouldn't have any problems with their health, and I think a lot of parents wish for the best for their children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Lily Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I am for stem cell research but I believe it should have its restrictions and limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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