-Kai- Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hey, I was Restocking at various shops arround neopia but there has been a while that shops haven't reestocket.... My question is: Am I banned to buy in neopian shops? I read that in a guide some time ago but I'm not sure, and How can I know if I'm banned or not? thanx :D Kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Cat Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 The easiest way to know if you're banned is to visit this shop. It's always stocked, except on half-price days it sometimes isn't, so if it has the Sold Out sign, than you're RS banned. If there are items stocked, you aren't banned ;P You get banned at a random time after refreshing in Neopian Shops. Could take 15 minutes or 15 hours (example times). It goes away after a random amount of time, but I think the maximum time you can be banned at once is 24 hours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kai- Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 wow so I'm banned lol :S thank you very much! I'll wait to get unbanned :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimii Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 How and why do you get banned? o_O I've never heard of that before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kai- Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 yes, I read that in a RS guide.... if you refresh too much u get banned for a short period of time (not forever lol). I've been banned for 30 minutes and counting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy monkey Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 wow! ive never heard of being banned for refreshing too much, is it anywhere on the site or jus in shops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kai- Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 just neopian shops :D it would be very painfull to be banned all over neopia lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimii Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Why would that matter?! I mean if you don't refresh you can't get anything good, there are so many people that try to RS! :O Mean TNT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kai- Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 I know and the sad part was that I couldn't buy anything! :( I'm just lukyless lol ok this is bad... I've been banned for like 2 hours now :S I just have to wait untill tomorrow.... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimii Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 :( I am going to guess the main reason they do it is that too many queries can overload the servers. That's also why you can't use the SSW a lot. *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest riwu0730 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Not only u get ban for refreshing in shops, but if you keep refresh at shop wizard, you can get banned from shop wizard too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimii Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yeah I get "banned" from the SW all the time, it only lasts for 10-20 minutes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2lindy77 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Why would that matter?! I mean if you don't refresh you can't get anything good, there are so many people that try to RS! It takes quite a bit of refreshing to get RS banned. For example, I'll use what I do when I'm sick. I will sit and restock for 2-3 hours, refreshing about every 5-10 seconds (while watching TV). I don't get restock banned just from that. (And just that amount of restocking time alone can get me about 60k profit, easily.) I did it for several hours in a row, with only short breaks here and there, and THAT got me RS banned. I've also heard of people who almost constantly refresh, like every couple of seconds, and that got them RS banned much more quickly. I'm not sure what the threshold is for getting RS banned, but it seems to be fairly high, because I do a lot of restocking and rarely get banned. On a related note, the more I think about the system set up for restock banning, the more I hypothesize it must look at certain thresholds: If the number of refreshes in an X minute/hour period is over Y, the user is RS banned. Let's look at possible examples of how this might work, using hypothetical numbers. Let's look at a threshold to stop a user from refreshing too quickly for very long. Let's say one possible value of X is 15 minutes and Y is 375 (which comes to an average of 25 refreshes a minute, which is a lot!). If a user is constantly refreshing every time the page loads, resulting in an average of 25 or more refreshes over 15 minutes, then the user would be banned. And now let's look at a threshold to stop a user from restocking for too long a period of time. Let's say this value of X is 8 hours and the value of Y is 3600 refreshes (which comes to an average of one refresh every 8 seconds). Suppose the user refreshes on average every 8 seconds for 8 hours, which is quite a long time, the user would be restock banned. It's possible that TNT has sets of refresh thresholds that exist which look somewhat like this. From the information I've seen around, this is my best guess as to the type of thresholds they have, but the numbers are only there for examples. I don't want to spend the time to get myself RS banned just to test out their thresholds, but if somebody else wants to try it, go right ahead. I'd be interested in seeing the numbers that came out of the testing. But in conclusion, once you know that you can be RS banned for restocking for way too long or for refreshing too quickly for too long, you can take steps to mitigate the problem. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimii Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 :( I am going to guess the main reason they do it is that too many queries can overload the servers. That's also why you can't use the SSW a lot. *sigh* Or it could be this up above ^ :D They don't want server crashes after all because then they would have a lot of angry kids on their butts. lolll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazycrazykitten Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Huh, I didn't know that could happen, I sometimes refresh a lot, but it is usually when I'm looking for a particular item so it is only for a few minutes at a time. Good to know for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 That's really odd, I've never heard of that either. How frequently were you refreshing? - Apollo ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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