What to Look for in a BD pet?

[HRH9629]

I'm looking for a good BD pet. I was wondering what the Level, hit points etc. should be at. Thanks ^_^

[redfire77]

the higher the stats are, the more damage/defense it can do. agility doesn't really matter, except if you want to use some special weapons that require a suuuper high agility level. the level just defines how high the other stats can be if you are training your pet at the Training School in mystery island or at the Pirate Academy

[HRH9629]

Ahhh, thanks. I wasn't really sure. I'm still kind of new to the BD stuff. I though my level 27 Eyrie was a good BD pet. I was wrong. :worried:

[Powie]

Ahhh, thanks. I wasn't really sure. I'm still kind of new to the BD stuff. I though my level 27 Eyrie was a good BD pet. I was wrong. :worried:

 

Well, it depends. From what I know, if you have decent strength and HP, it can already be considered a BD pet. At level 27, if your HP is 71 with Strength and Defence at 54, I'd say that's a pretty decent BD pet already. :)

 

Few people have the patience and will to spend NPs to train their pet.

[HRH9629]

She only has 18 hp. I found that good weapons help though. They help alot :D

[Powie]

She only has 18 hp. I found that good weapons help though. They help alot :D

 

Just remember HP is just as important as strength. Living longer means you can take more hits before you use your healer items, (and means you heal more too .. depending on what healing item you're using).

[HRH9629]

Just remember HP is just as important as strength. Living longer means you can take more hits before you use your healer items, (and means you heal more too .. depending on what healing item you're using).

 

I Don't really have a good BD set, I'm working on it. I have a Hanso Charisma Charm and a snowglobe staff. Otherwise it's just other random stuff I have. I'm working on it, But I'm not good at saving my Np :*

[Powie]

I Don't really have a good BD set, I'm working on it. I have a Hanso Charisma Charm and a snowglobe staff. Otherwise it's just other random stuff I have. I'm working on it, But I'm not good at saving my Np :*

 

That's no problem at all :) The good thing about BD weapons is that they rarely have a dramatic change in price. The only case this happens is when a new weapon comes out and does about the same number of icons as an existing weapon. If the new one is cheaper, the existing, similar weapon somewhat follows the price of the new one.

 

This happened with the Gsword, which inflated to around 90m when it retired, but upon the release of SoWL, has gone back to around the 55m range.

 

A word of advice, however. The time to buy weapons is now. While there is no plot or anything to encourage BD at the moment, the prices of weapons are at its lowest, and that includes training. A lot of people are actually investing on BD now, because should a plot come around that involved the BD, you can bet anything prices are gonna soar.

[HRH9629]

That's no problem at all The good thing about BD weapons is that they rarely have a dramatic change in price. The only case this happens is when a new weapon comes out and does about the same number of icons as an existing weapon. If the new one is cheaper, the existing, similar weapon somewhat follows the price of the new one.

 

This happened with the Gsword, which inflated to around 90m when it retired, but upon the release of SoWL, has gone back to around the 55m range.

 

A word of advice, however. The time to buy weapons is now. While there is no plot or anything to encourage BD at the moment, the prices of weapons are at its lowest, and that includes training. A lot of people are actually investing on BD now, because should a plot come around that involved the BD, you can bet anything prices are gonna soar.

 

Okay, Then I'm Going to put my nps in the bank so I don't spend them. I might wait until after the plot though. I did pretty good with the TFR plot, I could have gotten some good weapons. I'll probably buy some weapons after the plot though. I'm also going to work on training one of my pets. ^_^

Thanks So much for your help. I Understand the BD alot better now. :D

[Welcome Back Apathy]

For a start, your pet should definitely have a level over 50. This unlocks the "berserk" attack that you can use on your opponent--the damage they take is MUCH better. The downside is, it also lowers your defense when you do that, so I only use berserk attack when I have just frozen the opponent. But it's a good thing to have.

 

Your stats depend on whom you want to beat. However, I will let you know this--the amount of strength or defense you have matters a lot, but only in large increments. If you have 125 strength, it won't make a difference between that and 130--the next "boost" is at 200, I think. Each "boost" you get changes your multiplier. So if you have 125 strength, you will do a certain amount of damage, and if you upgrade to 200, you'll do more damage. Same with defense--you'll block more at the next multiplier.

[Powie]

For a start, your pet should definitely have a level over 50. This unlocks the "berserk" attack that you can use on your opponent--the damage they take is MUCH better. The downside is, it also lowers your defense when you do that, so I only use berserk attack when I have just frozen the opponent. But it's a good thing to have.

 

Your stats depend on whom you want to beat. However, I will let you know this--the amount of strength or defense you have matters a lot, but only in large increments. If you have 125 strength, it won't make a difference between that and 130--the next "boost" is at 200, I think. Each "boost" you get changes your multiplier. So if you have 125 strength, you will do a certain amount of damage, and if you upgrade to 200, you'll do more damage. Same with defense--you'll block more at the next multiplier.

What Karina says is correct. You can read more about boosts in this website: http://battlepedia.thedailyneopets.com/index.php/articles/viewarticle/battle-strength-defense-boosts/

 

Also, something to note about berserk attack is that when you use it, you also take 50% more damage. ;)

[nailguard]

ask yourself some of these questions:

Is this bd pet for 1p or 2p? If its 1p, you can probably avoid caring about the league system people follow and look for high stat pets in hp, str, def, and 201 or more agi are good things to look for. The agi is for using the 100% stealer.

Are you going to train this pet? So, stat distribution can affect whether you can train a pet well or not. Lab ray pets tend to have unbalanced stats making them tough to train via training schools

What is your budget/bd equip for the pet? If you plan to use things like glowing cauldron or prickly/voidberry potion, strength doesnt matter as much. If you use many 100% icon blockers, defence matter as much.

 

The higher the hp, strength, defence, the better.

201 or more in agi is nice as well as it allows your pet to use the 100% stealer

Level allows you to train the pet more, allows you to bless the pet if needed.

[HRH9629]

My link This is the pet I'm going to be training. He has some okay stats, I should Work on all of his stats not just the HP. So would it be better if I stopped zapping him with the Lab Ray, and started takeing him to the training school? Or should I continue to zap him? Or do both?

[nailguard]

you have a tricky situation here, the pets`stat isnt balanced. I would avoid using the lab ray if you wish to upgrade the pet`s agi, defence, and strength in a balanced manner. The lab ray can bring pets level to 1, preventing you from training the pets strength, agility, and defence via training schools. I've seen claims that the lab wont bring your pets level to 1 if your pet reaches a certain level of some sort, but i dont know if that is true or not

 

For the training school

You can increase the pets strength, agility and defence up to two times the pet`s level before having to increase its level to continue raising those 3 stats,

For hp, you can increase it to 3x your pets level, before having to increase level to further upgrade hp

 

In my opinion, if you want to increase the pets stats via training school, you should first increase the pets level to 40 (half the hp of your pet). Then upgrade Str, def, agi to 80, followed by upgrading hp to 120. Then follow this guide for stat distribution and training plans: http://battlepedia.thedailyneopets.com/index.php/articles/viewarticle/Fast-Training/ . Once the pet's stat has been rebalanced, you can consider labbing to hopefully reduce training costs.

[queensorchadragon]

I have a question. My pet, Hazelnutella, has a high level from Coltzan but relatively lower (albeit rather even) other stats. I thought it might be a good idea to lab her (um. him at the moment) on my side that I put the lab map on? I'd rather spend nps bringing her level up than spend vastly more training up her defense, strength, etc because she has a high level.

[nailguard]

leveling up isnt really too useful. Levels determine how much you can train the pet`s stats via training school before having to upgrade level more, whether you can bless the pet with faerie abilities and perhaps what species attacks, or other related fighting stances you can get (ie. beserk attack comes at lev 50).

 

In the battledome, you want to have endurance, strength, and defence as those affect the pet`s fighting abilities. Endurance determines how much damage can be taken before your pet loses the fight, strength improves dmg per icon, defence improves how much damage can be reduced per icon. Agility is an optional stat to upgrade - if you get 201 or above in agi, you can use the heavy robe of thievery (100% stealer). Level does not affect your the amount of damage you deal/receive, or anything really in battle except the fighting stances and species abilities availability. You can have a level 1 pet with 5000 hp, 700 str, def, 201 agi, and it would still do well in bd. A level 1000 pet with 20 str, def, and agi would just do really poorly against that level 1 pet I mentioned earlier. In fact, that lev 1000 pet would be kinda hard to train effectively.

 

If you still want to increase level, and not the str, endurance, def, etc, labbing is not the way to go; using the lab ray often reduces levels more often then leveling up the pet. Labs give you str, reduced def, some agi, and a really low level pet in the long run.

 

If you want to train effectively, you would want to keep the level lower than those stats (hp, agi, def, etc) Levels determines cost, and lower costs is generally better. Follow this guide for planning your training: http://battlepedia.thedailyneopets.com/index.php/articles/viewarticle/Fast-Training/

[queensorchadragon]

That's why I wanted to lab her, her level is high and her stats could be better. I want to see if I can get them more lower level, higher stats, I realize I will still have to train up her defense probably and level but I'd rather train at a lower level than a higher one for the stats she currently has.

[nailguard]

sure, I guess that might work. Except, there's a risk - if the lab brings down the pet's level to 1, you would have to pay for 16 courses in levels just to be able continue upgrading and rebalancing the pet's defence and movement through training schools or the academy. I guess your goal might be bring to the pets level to 20 or less, for cheaper academy/mystery island fees but the risk is pretty high imo. There is another method of reducing a pet's level - lose games against the count von roo. Its still luck based, and you might win levels instead.

 

Your other option is to just train the pet's current stats, to fix everything up